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The EBacc

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themonalisa · 19/12/2012 17:19

Is it true that creative subjects will be ignored if schools introduce the EBacc? What can we parents do?

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themonalisa · 21/12/2012 16:04

I like the notion of the EBC as being cotton wool on Gove's head! His head is full of cotton wool.
People are wrong when they say there will be plenty of time left to do the other subjects, if this was so then we wouldn't have schools squeezing the Arts into one option block and reducing the subjects offered in the Arts (DFE's own recent IPSOS report on the effect of the EBC clearly shows this happening).
The creative industries are huge in the UK. We need to make sure that we are continuing this trend and creating opportunities for young people to become the next Wayne Hemingway or Zandra Rhodes.

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chloe74 · 20/12/2012 21:24

"Stick to getting kids to do sensible core subjects" - I agree, its the same thing.

TalkinPeace2 · 20/12/2012 20:30

The EBC is - as far as I can gather still at the "cotton wool in Gove's head" stage.

The Ebacc is a miasma as well.

Stick to getting kids to do sensible core subjects without silly artificial qualifications and it will all pan out OK (probably)

chloe74 · 20/12/2012 20:20

sorry crazy but you are misrepresenting it. You will only (realistically) take 7 subjects from that list of yours not 10. Eng2, Math, Sci2, MFL and History or Geography. Leaving 3 or 4 spaces for a bright kid to do Music, Art, DT and PE if they really wanted. However the EBacc isn't compulsory so they don't have to do all those subjects! aka what prh said.

BooksandaCuppa · 20/12/2012 19:39

What prh said.

prh47bridge · 20/12/2012 14:39

There were similar concerns when the national curriculum was introduced. Drama was not included. There were dire warnings that drama would disappear from secondary schools completely. When I last looked this hadn't happened.

Students will NOT be expected to study all the EBC subjects. To get the EBacc they will need English, Maths, History or Geography, the sciences and a language. That leaves plenty of room for other options.

crazymum53 · 20/12/2012 13:59

Sorry it should read www.baccforthefuture.com/sign-the-petition.html

crazymum53 · 20/12/2012 13:58

What can you do about it? You could sign the on-line petition - see the link below:
petition www.baccforthefuture.com/sign-the-petition.html

crazymum53 · 20/12/2012 13:56

The New English Baccalaureate Certificates (EBCs)will be in English Lang, English Lit, Maths, Optional Additional Maths, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, History, Geography, Languages. That will be 10 subjects altogether and will fill most of the school timetable. That will lead little room for other options such as DT, Music, Drama, Art, Business studies, RE, PE etc. and restrict choices available to students, so it's not just the Performing arts that would be affected.

chloe74 · 19/12/2012 20:32

Oasis academies have a reputation of playing the system big time, (students are collateral damage) no matter what the league tables say your child will not get a decent education there and you want to avoid their schools at all costs unless you drive a bulldozer.

If schools restrict access to the arts then parents just have to assert their rights.

creamteas · 19/12/2012 18:49

The final plans are not out yet, but it might increase pressure on schools to restrict access to these subjects (this already happens to some extent at my DCs school)

Not connected to EBacc, but a heard a report on the radio this morning that a primary Oasis academy had cancelled all performing arts (including the Nativity play) as their SATS results were poor.

chloe74 · 19/12/2012 18:28

depends on what you mean by ignored? If parents choose not to do them then they will be ignored, otherwise it will be the same as it is now.

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