Silly things teachers think will work

I don't mind parents talking to me. I like it. I enjoy discussing things with parents. However, if a parent said "My child told me that you did xxx in his lesson. That's silly and clearly won't work" and expected me not to respond and/or defend my position, then that would be a differnt matter. However, in RL, this has never happened.

And I stand by the fact that someone who is not a teacher would not understand lots of stuff that happens in the classroom, in the same way that I don't assume I understand everything DH does in his job. He trained to do what he does, and has over 15 years experience of it. I would never be so arrogant as to assume I could do it just as well as he could. Why would I?

I'm so afraid I'll get deleted for talking about another thread! So anyway this is my comment which is "safe" from the post that's probably about to get deleted!

Why do teachers clutch their pearls so very histrionically when a parent has a view. You'd think the sky was falling, you really would.

Honestly - I don't mind an informed opinion, criticism, or even a good argument.

It's when someone wades in announcing that a task they know nothing about beyond the title is 'age inappropriate', or that selection would sort everything out because everyone knows clever kids (read: that poster's kids) aren't naughty...

...well, dh has been downstairs all night recording his new album. I haven't breezed in telling him 'you don't mix heavy metal in dubly', to quote Spinal Tap, because I would then look like my opinions had run ahead of my knowledge...

Same thing. That's all.

Parental support means the parent has read and understood the home-school agreement that they signed.

As an experiment one year, I didn't sign the home-school agreement. No one chased it up, not that year nor any of the subsequent years. It is clearly a tick box exercise.

IIRC the agreement was all about our obligations to the school (a school that we had no choice in attending since it was our catchment school). There was nothing about the school's obligations to parents or pupils.

Eviltwins you said ."not a teacher .. therefore has no idea"

nothing about the op (except that she's not a teacher)

and "it's not her job to know" - ie she's not a teacher how would she knpw

nothing about the op (except that she's not a teacher)

I mean, feel free to report if you want, I don't mind.

Yes I thought it might be but I wasn't saying "you said this" to anyone on another thread, just generally what was talked about, so I thought it would be alright. I was just trying to prove my point that teachers really, really don't like parents expressing a view.

Oh ravenAK I don't mind linking to the thread. I'd happily quote bits of it here but I don't think that's allowed? I especially liked the part where I suggested sin bins / isolation units and was roundly disagreed with (by a teacher) and then another poster suggested sin bins / isolation units and was Uriah Heeped all over (by the same teacher). Good times.

Brycie - bad form to bring up a thread on another thread.

Last time I checked, "her" referred to a specific person.

You can't go on about a "bunch of teachers" and then accuse others of making sweeping generalisations!

The point I'm making is that the teachers and the parent (basically me) in this case mainly agreed. But the teachers were mortally offended that a parent should make a suggestion and really just didn't want to agree because it didn't come from a teacher. It was ridiculous, the tying in knots to try to disagree with me and agree with each other. They wanted to say "you don't know anything about it" )in fact did! - but we basically agreed on what should be done.

So that's the thing really, I'm not bothered about a rehash of that argument, it's more - why do teachers clutch their pearls so very histrionically when a parent has a view. You'd think the sky was falling, you really would.

I mark in red.

Were they suggesting that maybe some thought should be given to where the child was removed to?

I don't think you can claim that a bunch of teachers on a thread you hazily recall were 'spit-roasting a parent for daring to say said child should be removed' & then go on to assert that you 'won't misrepresent'.

My lower ability year 11 would definitely pick you up on your failure to provide evidence, although they'd enjoy identifying the emotive language & hyperbole.

I've taught a violent student (towards students rather than teachers). The school did everything in their power to plan and support their move to a more appropriate educational setting but were overruled by the LA on monetary grounds.

I expect there are parents out there moaning about how ineffectual the school were in not booting this child out. Probably the fault of the liberal teachers.

Is it really unacceptable to suggest that someone who isn't a teacher may not necessarily understand classroom management techniques used by teachers? I have no idea why that might be offensive.

I just ran it past DH (private sector), who laughed at me, and asked if I thought I could troubleshoot the code he's working on.

I think the red card/yellow card thing sounds like a good idea, done by the right sort of teacher.

"This "bunch of teachers", were they really saying they want violent children in their classes? How strange. "

Well they were spit-roasting a parent for daring to say said child should be removed. I don't understand it either.

Although to be fair we were talking about disruptive rather than violent children. I won't misrepresent.

If yellow red/yellow cards can work for a bunch of 20 something footballers, then why not a bunch of teenagers?

But they're not allowed assessed practical papers back though. So it won't inflame the blood lust...

"It's not her job to know such things" - sweeping generalisation

"The OP is not a teacher, and therefore has no idea etc" - sweeping generalisation

Nothing to do with the op - all to do with whether or not she/he is a teacher.

Who could do better?

The students?

Or the teacher, trying something new that someone who knows very little about it kneejerks as 'silly'?

I think the Father Christmas letter idea for GCSE is fabulous. My year 11s could tell you why it's a good exercise, since they are well-drilled in what they need to do to get a good mark for q.6 of their English Language Paper.

Oh, cross posts...

As a parent, rather than a teacher, I am reluctant to write off the education of a group of people who will be sharing society with my children.

Not quite the same as tolerating aggression in my lab...

Apparently it's too violent to mark in red. Looks like blood.

Bless. Not keen on being caught out huh.

Yes I knew, but I thought an adult might be able to cope with the "damage to their self esteem". Perhaps I was wrong.