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Help! Need advice on senior schools SW London/Surrey/boarding

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Twickenhamum · 25/10/2012 21:28

Hello everyone, this is my first post and I need your help!
My son is in Year 4 at a Surrey prep and his head has advised parents to start researching senior schools now.
My natural inclination would be to register for the most academic ones, either day or boarding (St Paul's, Westminster, King's College Wimbledon, Hampton, Eton, Winchester College in no particular order).
However, and it's a big however, I am not entirely sure whether my son would really thrive in a highly pressurised academic environment (and that's assuming he would pass the tests) and would welcome any suggestions for good schools.
My boy is very bright but easily distracted, and is as capable of acieving peaks of academic excellence as of completely switching off and making really silly mistakes. While he will spend hours reading books on topic that capture his interest, he will happily do the minimum work required on stuff he finds boring. At present, he is towards the top of Set 2 in English and maths, average at sport (average to good in rugby) and a beginner (with moderate interest) at two musical instruments. More importantly, he is not very emotionally robust and am not sure how well he would take it if he were to sink to the bottom of the pile in a very competitive environment.
Good university exit is important to me, but obviously my son's happiness takes precedence. Does anyone have any suggestion for suitable day or boarding schools? We are considering both at this early stage.
Many thanks!
TM

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mummytime · 28/10/2012 19:09

Pier point closed years ago, and I think the Christian centre that replaced it might have closed too.
Frensham Heights is going strong, I know several people who have sent their kids there.

difficultpickle · 28/10/2012 18:16

Bradfield and St Edwards are on my list but then so is Radley.

difficultpickle · 28/10/2012 18:12

Gosh, the only school I was going to look at in year 4 was Winchester as it has an open day for that year group. I'm utterly clueless on what sort of school would suit ds. I had planned to look in year 5 assuming that was plenty early enough. No guidance available from school as ds has only just started there. Some schools are quite specific on what age you should visit, eg Eton.

EBDTeacher · 28/10/2012 17:56

Would second St Edward's- it's a great school.

EBDTeacher · 28/10/2012 17:56

TBH Wellington only really suits outgoing, sporty boys (DH Taught there and we lived in a boarding house). It does provide a good education but putting up with Archangel of Bullshit Seldon for 5 years would probably be more than I could stomach.

One for the 'gently does it list' is Bradfield. It is very unpressured and supportive but still gets decent results.

marriedinwhite · 28/10/2012 17:40

Sevenoaks is uber academic nowadays. In that direction what about King's Canterbury? I wasn't aware that Hampton was snapping at KCS's tail but our son is U6 now and things do move on very quickly. I don't know why but I thought Frensham Heights had closed years ago - is Pierpoint still around? Perhaps I got the closures the wrong way round?

bettys · 28/10/2012 17:11

Should also add, we chose Reed's over Kingston Grammar, but didn't look at St John's or Epsom as they are too far away.

bettys · 28/10/2012 17:07

Actually Reed's is ahead of St John's slightly in the league tables (but not Epsom). It is sporty but the focus is also on academic results, although the intake is quite broad.

roquefort · 28/10/2012 15:22

Academically, would rank 1. Epsom, 2. St Johns 3. Reeds. Reeds very sporty. Epsom more expensive than other - very long day (6pm finish) and 3pm on Sat as much more a boarding school.

roquefort · 28/10/2012 15:16

I would agree that Hampton almost as difficult to get into as KCS these days - local prep schools finding boys who would have got places in the past not getting in. Harder to get in at 13 than 11.

I think, but not certain, that Kingston Grammar no longer take at 13.

Consider City of London Freemen's in Ashtead (though probably not for boarding as only small number of boarders and mostly sixth form).

Aethra · 28/10/2012 15:16

St George's Weybridge?

LIZS · 28/10/2012 15:10

Many look around during years 4/5 as an increasing number of these schools pretest in Year 6 and require registration a term or more beforehand. Sevenoaks was oversubscribed last year and more competitive to get into.

mummytime · 28/10/2012 12:20

If you think of Bedales then also look at Frensham Heights.
Boxhill is a bit alternative, but not like Bedales/Frensham, did well with a friend's son who had been bullied at Prep school.
Wellington, the only person I know who had children there, had two sons who went to Hull and Durham afterwards. It is pretty fashionable.

happygardening · 28/10/2012 12:08

Oh and Tonbridge a fab school IMO is almost in the same league as St Paul's (where the head worked for many yearsand hardly any full boarders) Westminster etc.

happygardening · 28/10/2012 12:04

I (and many others on MN) can't stand the head at Wellington hes a self publicist who could sell snow to Eskimos but we've got atfriends whose daughter is there and they think vey highly of it. Tonbridge and Marlborough are all good schools and over subscribed both will have good standards of pastoral care but ultimately probably not in the St Edwards league it's one of its USP's.
Bedales is not everyone's cup of tea and I've recently rather sadly heard less than complimentary things about bullying and pastoral care which you would have hoped you wouldn't hear from a school like Bedales!

IDismyname · 28/10/2012 10:46

Oh, and IB - good for children who are genuine 'all rounders' academically, but not so good for those that have a real passion and who would happily drop languages - for instance - to concentrate on the sciences.

MY DS is a classic example of a boy who would fail the IB horribly!

IDismyname · 28/10/2012 10:44

I would say that - although not quite up there with the 'Harrow and Etons' - Charterhouse School would only suit pretty robust types. Their pastoral care can be a bit... patchy.

We looked at it for DS, and luckily chose Cranleigh School for DS instead. He is very happy there and I have no regrets.

Don't forget that 'Happy Children Learn'.

Please take DS with you once you've whittled down the list - its VERY important that he's happy with the choice, too.

Twickenhamum · 28/10/2012 10:38

Bisjo, I wonder the same thing but apparently an awful lot of schools close their registration at the end of year 5, so I'm not going to know much more then than I do now!
Ok, I have added Hampton, Kingston Grammar, St. John's Leatherhead, Charterhouse, Lancing, Harrow, Epsom College, Radnor House, Whitgift, St Edwards, Halliford and Reeds to my list of schools to visit. Have a couple of questions on some of the schools though if anyone can bear some more with me?

  1. Hampton: among the parents at my son's prep, Hampton has a reputation for being almost as academically competitive (and nearly as difficult to get in) as King's College Wimbledon. Does anyone have any insights?
  2. Kingston Grammar: do they have any intake to speak of at 13? Or is it just 11+?
  3. If you had to pick between St John's, Reeds and Epsom College, assuming you had the choice of course, what would you go for?
  4. A lot of children from my son's prep seem to go to Wellington, Marlborough and Tonbridge--I had a feeling Wellington was more fashionable than great but maybe I am wrong. Does anyone have any experience of these schools? How about Sevenoaks? Is it too difficult to get in? I'm an IB girl myself, and quite like the breath of the IB.
  5. And finally someone (off board) suggested Bedales. I don't know the first thing about it (well aside what's written in the good schools guide). is it just too oddball?
Ages ago I had put my son down for Radley so that's an option too, although I'll have to have a proper look before they ask for the deposit in a few years' time, as it may be too tough an environment--heard mixed things about the pastoral care there. Thank you so much for all your help, I really appreciate it!
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difficultpickle · 27/10/2012 16:30

Starting to look in yr 4 seems very early. How will you know what they will be like in 4 years time?

basildonbond · 26/10/2012 20:08

A friend has a has a very 'sensitive' boy at Radnor House and he loves it - he moved half way through Y7 at a very traditional 'robust' prep where he was utterly miserable and he's thriving - it's quite a small site though so depends on how rambunctious your boy is ...

Definitely have a look at Whitgift - the boarding house looks great and the school has been absolutely brilliant for ds (he's very confident, sporty and 'boyish' though so it's been a perfect fit for him but I can see that it wouldn't suit everyone)

Twickenhamum · 26/10/2012 14:01

WOw thanks everyone, lots of food for my schools to visit list!
CalmingMiranda, my boy is strangoli keen on boarding because many of the (older) boys at his prep are headed there, but yes, I have some doubts as to whether it would really suit him. I boarded and loved it, but my son is rather more sensitive than I was at his age. I quite liked the sound of Radnor House but worried about it beings bit new..does anyone have any first experience there? I heard mixed reports about Reeds as very academically unchallenging: anyone knows whether this is true? I hadn't even heard of St Edwards....will investigate!

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Knowsabitabouteducation · 26/10/2012 13:55

Bearwood?

teaandthorazine · 26/10/2012 13:41

Whitgift School in Croydon is opening boarding from 2013. Worth a look, I would think.

CalmingMiranda · 26/10/2012 13:37

If he is not especially emotionally robust, would boarding really be a good choice?

happygardening · 26/10/2012 09:38

St Edwards Oxford? Fab standards of pastoral care (most prep school heads will agree it in a class of its own) good for keen rugby players, the really bright do well and the results for all are improving year on year with the new head and boarders are in the majority. Happy content children although it is quite liberal so may not suit you (its personal choice) and not a million miles from Twickenham.

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