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Peter Symonds, Winchester- your opinions?

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LittenTree · 19/10/2012 13:50

DS1 is in Y9 so whilst we are a way off yet, he is about to choose his GCSEs. He is erring towards science but has already 'decided' he wants to go to PS rather than Barton Peverell 6th form...

Obviously it is early days, and lord knows, there is time for at least 3 major educational shake ups before then at the rate we're currently experiencing them, isn't there? Grin

My question is, is PS a good place for identifying a DCs best choices for suitable uni/FE?

I read all the time on MN how 'good' Prep school Heads direct their DC to the 'right' public school for them; well, does a top-performing 6th form like PS do the same for uni/FE?

I am not for a second suggesting Barton Peverell doesn't help their DCs make the right choices of future direction, only that DS is probably destined for Science at a good uni, and a school like PS surely should have that correct 'insider knowledge' to guide him, shouldn't it? I am asking in the same vein as the 'problem' of poorly performing comps in deprived areas not even assuming a DC of thiers might aspire to Oxbridge, etc, as it is 'beyond their ken'.

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TalkinPeace2 · 20/10/2012 22:08

The funny thing about St Anne's now is that its full of Muslims because its the only single sex girls school in Southampton!
And the skirts are as short as they ever were

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if you live in southern Hampshire, rub your hands and take your pick
the more I read mumsnet the more smug I feel about where I happened to come to uni nearly 30 years ago!

Whatevertheweather · 20/10/2012 22:02

Grin eatyour the legend of the toilet nun. Before my time I'm afraid, only 1 teaching nun when I was there Sister Mary Oliver. She was 70+ and still teaching RE and she was my year 7 tutor. She used to confiscate our things and make us give money to cafod to get it back and cry if she saw any food thrown in the bin at the end of lunch. Loved her!

Sorry for hijack OP Blush

eatyourveg · 20/10/2012 19:17

Whatevertheweather I went from PSC feeder school to St Anne's 6th form - lasted less than one year and transferred to PSC - wish I'd gone there straight from school rather than waste a year with Sisters Jo and Francis Xavier! Sorry to go off track - were you there when they had the toilet nun?

Whatevertheweather · 20/10/2012 18:59

Definitely not saintly Grin My poor mum thought she was giving me a nice convent education

out2lunch · 20/10/2012 17:05

Smile i used to bus home with a few st annes girls..wild times

TalkinPeace2 · 20/10/2012 10:09

:-) I used to live in Milton Road - the tales I could have told the parents about what their girls got up to !

Whatevertheweather · 19/10/2012 20:40

St Annes talkin Grin my dm wanted me in an all girls school and we couldn't afford Wykeham House or Portsmouth High!

TalkinPeace2 · 19/10/2012 20:13

Whatever - KES?
Just that good friends of mine pay for HCS and they have done the maths and school fees plus travel are cheaper than moving into guaranteed catchments (for one child anyway)

Whatevertheweather · 19/10/2012 20:09

Ah maybe their dc just aren't predicted high enough gcse grades and the 'harder to get in' lore is a cover story Smile

I used to get the train from Fareham to Winchester; I shudder to think how much it must have cost my parents. On top of 5 years train fares to Southampton!!

out2lunch · 19/10/2012 20:05

i think that entrance grades are same everywhere - certainly are where we are looking for dd
you get lots of folklore about how great/hard to get into ps is tbh

Lemonsole · 19/10/2012 20:05

If you think about the recent rise in student numbers - 1600 last year; 1900 this year - the catchment is larger, if anything. Stagecoach's general crapness is the main barrier to further expansion.

Lemonsole · 19/10/2012 20:03

No geographical catchment - students come from as far away as the other side of the forest and north of Basingstoke. Entrance requirements are to ensure that students have a fighting chance of success in A levels, tho there are a lot more English resits this year, I think.

Whatevertheweather · 19/10/2012 20:03

Hmm it was anecdotal from parents I know with teen children who live near me in Fareham saying it was becoming harder to get in from our area.

My DD's are only 5 and 9 weeks so I've got a while before I have to worry about college Grin

out2lunch · 19/10/2012 19:56

i didn't think it was any more selective than the other colleges weather

TalkinPeace2 · 19/10/2012 19:55

Whatever
PSC has no catchment.
It has to cover all the areas without other sixth forms - as do all the other colleges
but they are UTTERLY strict about the 5 A-C
hence the mass re-mark that is currently underway

Whatevertheweather · 19/10/2012 19:54

Oh and I went there from a state secondary in southampton and was the only 1 of about 5 from my school. Quickly made friends no cliquey Winchester schools problem at all

Whatevertheweather · 19/10/2012 19:52

I went to PSC from 97-99 so a scarily long time ago but I loved it! I took 3 science based a-levels pus English Lit and went on to do biomedical science at Cardiff Uni. I also had offers from Durham and Exeter. My tutor was excellent as helping me with applications and interviews.

I have heard that it is getting more selective on entrance now outside of the key Winchester secondaries so good gcse's a must.

I have also found that it is an excellent college for contacts post uni in terms of finding a job.

Lemonsole · 19/10/2012 19:44

The two coffee bars are pretty impressive, tis true.

TalkinPeace2 · 19/10/2012 19:40

friend of mine (whose daughter went last night) commented on how good the coffee was at PSC!!

Lemonsole · 19/10/2012 19:01

Lower 6 this year is 1900 students, and any cliques rapidly dissolve. DCs make friends from other schools very quickly. There is certainly no domination by ex indies, as suggested above.

Students are guided to apply for unis that reflect their likely outcomes at A2, but there is a Russell Group obsession about the place that matches that often found in private schools. Students don't tend to drop out because PSC is particularly pushy, but more because their GCSE grades show that they were a bit touch and go for A levels anyway. Probably would have struggled anywhere, tbh. There is heaps of extra support, but the students have to be prepared to access it. Students leaving after AS are those who haven't managed to pass enough to put together a viable A2 programme - and if you haven't passed AS, you're very unlikely to pass A2 unless there are very extenuating circumstances.

Open Evening tonight: why not go?

TalkinPeace2 · 19/10/2012 18:45

Litten
HCS has year groups of around 60
KES has year groups of around 75
PS and BP have year groups of around 1500
Once the tidal wave of Mb, Th, RS, Wg, KS etc etc hit them they get diluted!
And actually so many kids are at the comps so their parents get better holidays that it seems to even out.
(friends of mine are teachers at PS - they have seen it!)

ISingSoprano · 19/10/2012 18:43

It is true that there are a proportion of children who live locally and have been privately educated to age 16 and then opt to go to PSC. However the huge proportion come from local state secondaries.

I can obviously only speak from personal experience (my own and ds) but if you have an academic child with aspirations to go to a top tier university then PSC really is outstanding.

out2lunch · 19/10/2012 18:42

i'd say litten tree that half and half went to both bp and ps at my dcs state secondary

out2lunch · 19/10/2012 18:40

i'm with the bp crowd Smile
ps has a fair few drop out due to high pressure - i don't believe there is that much difference in results between the two
go for what suits your child - we are v lucky here i agree
ps def has the winchester 'snob' value but if that's what you want go for it Wink

LittenTree · 19/10/2012 18:37

Settle, everyone Grin- no, I am entirely of the 'horses for courses' argument.

You won't find me asking 'Which is the best Sixth Form College out of these?' because the answer is, of course, tell us about the 16 year old you're talking about, here! My boss' son was bright but lazy. She and he saw his tutor at school just about every week in Y11 to keep him focussed! They visited both of these colleges and she, in particular, was way more impressed with BP, saying they conveyed an air of enthusiasm and really caring; whereas PS were very 'we don't need to woo you because you want us more than we need you'.... And yes, I will lay my prejudice out here and say I am a bit concerned about how many privately educated, to date, DC might possibly be at PS- and most will of course be from KE6 or HC, won't they?- but enough to potentially form a clique? Enough, in terms of critical mass, to sway a learning 'type' or methodology towards the style more suited towards those DC?

I dunno!

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