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A2 Further Maths - no of hours teaching per week?

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JustGettingByMum · 15/09/2012 07:46

DS is taking A2 FM, he has come home from school on Friday and told us that because of time tabling clashes, they are only being offered 2 hours FM pw. All the other subjects are 5 hrs pw

Firstly, I think it sounds impossible to cover the whole syllabus (3 topics) in this time. What do you think? Maybe it is doable?

Secondly, I want to contact the school on Monday to discuss this further.
If your dc is/was doing FM, would you be kind and ask them how many hours teaching they get, and how many are in the class?
Even better if you are a maths teacher and can advise!

For DS 1- 8 students, 4 hrs teaching pw

For DS 2 - 4 students, 2 hrs teaching pw Sad

Thanks for your help x

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Knowsabitabouteducation · 15/09/2012 19:35

Is FM in an option block, timetabled against other subjects? If so, do those other subjects get only two hours per week?

If FM is out in its own option block, I can see that it would be difficult to timetable.

What was the timetable in L6? Most schools just roll up their sixth form timetables to the new year. It would be weird to have the full complement of lessons in L6 but not in U6.

SecretSquirrels · 15/09/2012 16:50

DS1 just started AS and gets 5 hours Maths plus 5 hours FM.

mnistooaddictive · 15/09/2012 16:43

I wouldn'y bother with head of maths - they will be as annoyed by it as you are. The decisions are made by head/ deputy so you need to see them.

Faxthatpam · 15/09/2012 15:14

DS1 did maths and FM A2 and got same amount of teaching time for both, some of the FM was after normal school hours. There were 6 in his FM class. He said they needed it - in fact thinks you probably need more time for FM.

I would definitely question this with school, it doesn't sound right to me. Ask for an appointment with head of maths and ask him to explain the discrepancy.

MordionAgenos · 15/09/2012 15:05

@justgettingby Not really. If you can't do it in 2 hours you won't be able to do it in 5.

JustGettingByMum · 15/09/2012 14:31

Goodness I am staggered at the range of answers. I really don't see how students can take an A2 in 2 hours pw. I imagine they are at a serious disadvantage to those who are lucky enough to get the full 4/5 hrs pw

What to do next?

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bruffin · 15/09/2012 14:09

DS get 5 x 50minutes a week. further maths, same as normal maths

prettydaisies · 15/09/2012 14:03

My daughter who is doing maths and further maths gets an extra one and half hours compared to her other subjects. So nowhere near two option blocks. The are 15 students in her set. She has just started lower sixth. Core 1 mock in 2 weeks!

MordionAgenos · 15/09/2012 10:01

@justgettingby Obviousky it was a long time ago, but when I did Further Maths A level, there were three of us in the class and we had 2 hours a week. Plus I think 4 hours of normal Maths (in a group of 20). We finished the syllabus at the end of the first year. The school had no choice, it wasn't supposed to offer further Maths at all (it was such a minority subject that the LEA decided it should only be offered at one school - not ours) but because there were 3 of us, and none of us wanted to go to the other school the head of the Maths department and the applied specialist both offered to teach us in a free period (for them). They were confident that the 3 of us would be able to manage on 2 hours teaching a week. They were right. We all got As.

WofflingOn · 15/09/2012 08:32

Thank you Mrs HP, I've just spent a happy ten minutes watching the hora on Youtube. Smile
DD had 4 hours tuition a week for Further maths.

noblegiraffe · 15/09/2012 08:27

Due to budget cuts at sixth form I know some schools are considering cutting teaching hours for subjects with low take-up on the principle that they will be getting more support from the teacher in the lessons that they do have.

I'm a maths teacher and at my school FM gets the same number of teaching hours as Maths, but I know that at other schools it is taught in one option block at the same time as maths. If the students are really good at maths, often they don't need to spend as much time on it as they do their other subjects.

MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2012 08:17

*hours not hora

MrsHerculePoirot · 15/09/2012 08:17

Secondary maths teacher here. We have two fm classes in both u6 and l6 and they have between 15 and 22 students in. They have 4 hora for maths and 4 hours for fm the same as all other subjects. Any classes that can't be timetabled end up with a lesson after school
So they get that teaching time and the teacher has a TOIL (time off in lieu) period somewhere else in the timetable in return.

mnistooaddictive · 15/09/2012 07:54

It should be 4 hours but it is very common for fm to be 3 or even 2. It is wrong and unfair but still happens. It generally means teachers have to do extra lessons after school and in holidays which is unfair on everyone.

Knowsabitabouteducation · 15/09/2012 07:49

Schools timetable using option blocks. All option blocks should have the same number of lessons. It should be 5 hours.

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