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Great wise MNers, what are the REAL pitfalls of year 7 - for a (PFB) child with AS?

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MrsS3 · 29/06/2012 00:43

We're doing the obvious stuff, uniform (done) numerous visits done and ongoing, form / tutor group with a few familiar faces (done) and photos of the teachers he'll need to remember.
However, I can't help but feel that it's like buying a cot and a pram for a new baby before realising you've not got a clue how to deal with it in reality and the actual practicalities are a whole lot different. Possibly a rubbish analogy but it makes sense to me Blush. I don't want to have got the kit and the book but entirely missed the bits that will really matter. Any tips?

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mynack · 05/07/2012 09:28

The dc's planner is a vital way of ensuring that no important messages get missed. Most schools expect parents to sign this every week. Also, there is probably a parents' zone on the school website where you can check up about dc's homework etc.

MrsS3 · 05/07/2012 01:33

we have a cunning plan. There is some demand on ds, but it works for us - we give him a rucksack, and shorten one strap so he can't wear it on his back like a trainspotter. again hiker Wink Inside it is a zippy A4 plastic folder, heavy duty stuff (a little larger than A4, if I'm being pedantic) like this and we've had him using it since he was about 7 to put any books which have to travel in. this separates his books and papers from water bottle/lunch/coat/assorted "stuff". In Y6 we've needed two, so he has one for the books and stuff and a second smaller (A5) one for his notebook and any letters from school or signed slips from home to be given to the teacher. He knows if it's in that folder then he's got to give it to me or his class teacher. He hasn't got the art of folding neatly (and sometimes makes the letters from school into paper aeroplanes) but still. It mostly works.

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sphil · 04/07/2012 23:09

Well DS enjoyed his induction day, despite losing his water bottle. Apparently it fell out of his bag and down a stairwell 'and I couldn't stop and look for it because a huge wave of children was following me'. Luckily it was named and a very nice teacher gave it back to us at the evening meeting. I wonder whether they will be quite so nice and smiley after the 100th lost item...

Anyone recommend the best bag for carrying books that stops them ending up looking like they've been through the tumble drier? Not a briefcase, obviouslyGrin. He took a rucksack today ( which is what most of the boys seem to use) but the stuff he brought back looked like it had been trampled underfoot. Have had this problem with his primary school bookbag as well and would love some ideas of how to solve it.

KitKatGirl1 · 04/07/2012 22:21

Lol; not quite cloned...luckily my ds does not have problems with sensitivity/preferences with clothing (except smart and tucked in, of course!) and am really hoping we don't need two lots of PE kit (at £250 for the first lot!!!!). He's never lost anything yet (she says!)

MrsS3 · 04/07/2012 00:29

ditto about the clip on tie[x2] (never thought I'd be heard saying that either...)
PE kits in duplicate Shock hadn't thought of that. Will get a spare set but the cheapskate ones off the market
We're on buttons already. It seems like an eternity, we've only been practicing since Easter [yawnnnn] On the plus side, we've almost decided which shirts we like - got one/two M&S, Asda, BHS [rolls eyes] [again] Well as we all know, of several identical white shirts, only one will be the right sort, won't it (until tomorrow when it could very well be different. when he decides for real, I might buy him a couple more!)

loving the comments, am Grin at lots of them as we apparently have cloned children... particularly "do thing" in notebook and Sphil, yes, the hood... Wink

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sphil · 03/07/2012 18:39

Oh blimey buttons - good idea to practise. DS regularly does them up wrong on the few occasions he wears clothes with them on. And he is still v e r y slow at changing for PE, which apparently will be an issue as a friend tells me they have very little time and a LOT of PE. Yikes.

Never thought I would utter these words, but thank the Lord we have a clip on tie...

DS has just finished filling in his induction booklet. Under 'What myths have you heard about secondary school?' he has written
' I have not herd of eneything'

Sigh

ToryLovell · 03/07/2012 14:14

Kitkatgirl I totally agree - I am beginning to wonder if you are DS friend's Mum as DS and his other friends with ASD are always getting reports of good behaviour / effort etc.

DS has joined in a few lunchtime clubs - rather predictably the geeky ones ICT club, the robot club, the chemistry club and the electronics club Grin

basildonbond · 03/07/2012 08:35

sorry - forgot! PE kit just vanishes - and then mysteriously reappears .... so make sure you've got at least one spare kit in case of emergencies

amazingly the tie's not gone missing - but my top tie tip for dyspraxic dc is for them or you to tie it in the morning and then if they have to take it off for PE, just loosen it and slip it over their head meaning they don't have to retie it afterwards

after years of polo shirt wearing at primary, ds found formal shirt buttons tricky - I had to remind him several times to start buttoning from the bottom otherwise we had a button/button-hole mismatch

if dressing is tricky, get them to practise in the summer holidays - and it also gets them used to the different feel of the clothes if that's an issue

basildonbond · 03/07/2012 08:29

I really wouldn't worry too much about being 'cool' - our idea as parents as to what's cool among 11 and 12 year olds will be slightly off the mark, however much research we do and one thing my ds can't do is notice the subtle things which make one child achingly cool and another just a wannabe.

I make sure that ds's clothes fit - nothing worse than slightly too short trousers on a very tall, skinny, gawky boy - but other than that we don't worry about what's cool and ds isn't bothered at all. It helps that he's in a selective stream at his school and there are lots of other slightly geeky children there so he doesn't stand out as much as in a more streetwise cohort.

takeonboard · 02/07/2012 23:04

Get 2 ties as a minimum, 3 would be better...stuff just disappears into thin air apparently Hmm

sphil · 02/07/2012 23:02

This is a brilliant thread - Ds1 is dyspraxic and has his induction day on Wednesday. I will be using all these tips! I had to Smile at te trainspotting waterproof wearing - this is EXACTLY my DS, except that he tops it all off by putting the hood up. Whether its raining or not. Probably not the coolest of looks.

basildonbond · 02/07/2012 22:51

ds is just finishing Y7 - it's actually gone a lot better than I'd feared

It helps that the school is just round the corner and that all the kids from primary went there so he had a base of familiarity to start with

he has real problems with organisation so we have at least 2 timetables at home and I make him pack his bag the night before - this is slow-going - bearing in mind we've been doing this for nearly a year now I still have to remind him to take out stuff he doesn't need and go through his timetable checking what he does need!

I've got most of his friends' parents' emails so when he comes home with the cryptic message in his planner "do thing" I can ask someone else in his class what on earth that might mean ..

and I wouldn't expect too much in the way of joining in - ds hasn't joined any clubs etc and has hardly seen anyone outside school - I think that school in itself is so overwhelming that he can't cope with any more social interaction just at the moment

MrsS3 · 02/07/2012 22:18

(just one more thing) did someone say get two ties?

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MrsS3 · 02/07/2012 21:55

He's off for the first of three "orientation days" tomorrow. Chances are he'll be showing the rest where to go as he's done so many visits that he knows his way round. I've actually told him not to Blush but hey.
Would any of you like to hang on to a thread to share tips/ traumas / ideas as we venture with our pfbs towards high school? Or is it just me being a wuss?

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takeonboard · 02/07/2012 16:54

My DS will not wear a coat, whatever the weather but he wore his jumper every day from November until May!

I think that every school has its own cool code... and for that reason their choice of bag is VERY important!!

teacherwith2kids · 02/07/2012 12:39

Oooooooooh I love you all.

PFB off to his trial day at secondary tomorrow and he will need ALL the above.

We're currently on 'spotting whether boys actually wear the school jumper' (as it's on the list but may not be worn IYSWIM) duty. DS has a tally chart he keeps in his primary school bookbag and he marks it whenever he sees a previously un-spotted secondary school boy to say
a) black or grey trousers
b) jumper or not

KitKatGirl1 · 02/07/2012 11:51

Exactly, and telling other children to listen to the teacher etc etc.

(Sometimes it really gets my goat when people (incl teachers) use 'SEN' to mean it's a problem to have any in their class). The two Aspie boys in my son's class are the best behaved as well as amongst the highest achievers. Hmm, got that off my chest).

Thanks to coppertop for the 'what to do if ' list idea. Will def use that!

Good luck to all our (pfb) Aspies for secondary:-)

MrsS3 · 01/07/2012 22:56

oh goodness yes, going on at people about tucking their shirts in, fastening their shoes and wearing "smart" shoes. Is that an Aspie classic?

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KitKatGirl1 · 01/07/2012 21:43

Oh my goodness, ToryLovell, that is my ds exactly. He is always lecturing people on the evils of smoking, tucking their shirts in, wearing sensible shoes/coats etc. Am hoping he will be relatively okay as is going to an independent where most of the kids seem to be real geeks too:-)

MrsS3 · 01/07/2012 20:47

Fantastic Grin Will start teaching him ignoring skills now, thanks for the heads-up. We love ToM [rolls eyes]
Round here most do seem to wear a black waterproof jacket thing, so long as it's one of a couple of brands and you pull the elastic round the bottom of the jacket right in Hmm. Have told him "this is how you will wear it" [aka not like trainspotter, and it's black instead of his preferred green lol] It's not easy for any kid, let alone with AS in the way...

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ToryLovell · 01/07/2012 13:12

Actually that reminds me of a big learning curve, regarding being cool.

At primary they are very sheltered and nurtured and anyone doing anything wrong is reported to the teacher and it is dealt with.

DS fully expected secondary to be the same, yet there is the unwritten rule about grassing on one's peers for minor misdemeanour that DS still at nearly 14 struggles with.

There are kids smoking and swearing and he knows that this is wrong - he had to be told that he didn't need to start lecturing them on the dangers of smoking etc. Good old theory of mind meant that he thought that they must not have known that smoking was dangerous, else why would they do it?

ToryLovell · 01/07/2012 13:09

Grin MrsS3 - it's not cool to wear a coat, so if he's not wearing one then he is fitting in.

KitKatGirl1 · 01/07/2012 13:04

Mine too, MrsS3, that's the problem with AS - you have to teach them what's cool so that they don't get picked on:-(

MrsS3 · 01/07/2012 11:37

have bought him a reasonably fashionable read Not Geeky black waterproof, because the trouble is that he will wear it. And would happily have been looking somewhat like a trainspotter. Blush

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MrsS3 · 01/07/2012 11:35

you lot are absolutely fantastic. Angels, all of you :) Am going to do absolutely all of the above. Locker keys, lanyards, lists, the lot. I lurve you, MNers.

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