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How much does a private education actually cost?

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FamiliesShareGerms · 13/06/2012 22:10

lots of thread on here at the moment about private vs state, and one of the things that comes up is the cost of private education. I see all sorts of figures being bandied around re the fees, the costs of uniform, the trips... but then lots of people say that there are bursaries and scholarships so it's not actually that much... And we are doing some sums to work out really whether it's an option for Dc in the future.

So... How much does it really cost? Our sums are something like:

£6000 per term fees
£300 per term lunch
£300 per year uniform
£200 per term music lessons
£1000 per year school trip(s)

So c£21-22k a year? Is this about right? Have I missed anything out?

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PooshTun · 15/06/2012 09:05

My DCs school obviously isn't that strict. Their shit can be whatever colour they want.

rabbitstew · 15/06/2012 08:58

No, it's actually quite cheap to change the shade of your shit. Particularly if they want beetroot.

invicta · 15/06/2012 08:43

"specific shades for shits"

No wonder private schools cost so much!

BringBack1996 · 14/06/2012 11:11

I think the more specific the uniform, the more expensive it is. At DN's private school they have a very specific uniform, and whilst you can get the big things like sports kit and blazers second hand and the hideous skirts, they ask for specific shades for shits, tights and trousers so they can only be bought from one specific shop. The teachers can apparently tell the difference between M&S blue shirts and the proper school ones Hmm. Also things like in general shoes are more expensive as they can't be 'fashion' shoes so have to be bought from more expensive shops. I must admit I was relieved that DS's school is not strict on uniform, it's saved me a fortune!

pimmsgalore · 14/06/2012 09:44

Our school dinner is included in fees, one trip per half term but once a term it is a free trip i.e. getting dropped off 8 miles away and walking with a map and compass back to school (with supervision of course). There is a big trip each year from yr4 onwards roughly £100 to £900 depending on length and where to. We get a set list when you join of how much each years trips will be for the next 5 years.

Second hand uniform is the way to go, when we first joined the school we were returning from overseas and had one chance to get it all so had to use the school shop 2 DCs cost us just over £1000 Shock Now DC3 is there and we use the second hand shop it only cost us £200 to kit him out. It is the little costs that add up modern pentathlon, cubs/scouts, judo etc etc

We have noticed DC4s state school asks for more throughout the year and if you add it all up it is about the same trip and activity wise

DD1 gets a scholarship which is worth 20% of fees, will go up when she gets to the senior school.

If you are wondering how much uniform cost roughly then look at perryuniform.co.uk as a lot of private schools are starting to use them as their main uniform supplier (ours included)

didofido · 14/06/2012 06:32

DC at a rural 7 - 13 prep. Fees £3850 per term, which includes lunch and snack at break. A 50% bursary makes this a little less than £2000. Extras are mostly inclusive, but those which cost are charged to parents. Two extras per term are timetabled but it's possible to choose the free ones. Second-hand uniform shop is great for expensive items and the multiplicity of sportswear required. Music lessons £150 per term per instrument. We avoid the expensive trips and there are days out for about the same price as state schools

gelatinous · 13/06/2012 23:29

It varies hugely.

Lunches included in fees for us, uniform was about £300 initially but only ~£50 per year thereafter (just replacing odd bits). School trips have been minimal - typically less than £100 per year with the odd year being more - ski trip once (?£800), orchestra exchange trip once (~£200), french exchange (~?£160). Some trips have been remarkably cheap (mostly CCF ones) battlefields for ?£10, and several summer weeks sailing or windsurfing for £1.40 per day including transport. Music lessons I think are about £170 per term per instrument (but quite a few children get these for free). Sailing is very reasonable ~£15 per term as I recall.

So far then just the fees are the main thing, but another expense you will face is exam fees for years 10 onwards which are maybe a couple of hundred a year.

Also if your child is invited to national summer schools or to a national schools sports final that require a contribution, then the school is unlikely to pay whereas state schools often do. These are usually waived in cases of hardship, but it might be hard to claim hardship if your dc is at a private school.

PooshTun · 13/06/2012 23:09

DS will sometimes have a cheeseburger for £2. Sometime he will have a Chicken Korma for £4.50. I'm assuming that other indies have a similar choice price wise.

The uniform and sports kit is more expensive then Tesco stock but its not to the point where you feel ripped off.

School trips have been mentioned. Your DC will be expected to go on the local education trips (about £17 each) but I was surprised to find that only about 35% of his year actually go on the foreign trips so you will be in the majority if you opt out of these expensive foreign trips.

FamiliesShareGerms · 13/06/2012 22:57

Thanks all.

Margery - some of the costs are just general "school running costs" type, but one of the things I keep hearing is eg how much more expensive the uniform and sports kit is than a state school (and DS will definitely outgrow / trash it every year, he's a tall lad already...). And we currently pay £2 a day for school lunches, but the nearest private school charges £4.50 a day, for example. Small differences, but they all add up. If we are only just managing to afford the fees, this sort of thing might make the difference between it being viable and not.

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HandMadeTail · 13/06/2012 22:49

And £300 per year uniform is excessive, unless they outgrow it every year. Also, if weren't wearing uniform, well, I don't think nudity would be an option, would it?

PooshTun · 13/06/2012 22:48

DC's is £14k a year but he has a 30% music scholarship and an exhibition (free music lessons). If we had to pay then it would be about £200 a term for lessons.

Uniforms can be quite expensive if you have a DD but for boys it tends to be bog standard plain black/grey trousers, blue or white shirts and a badged jacket.

Sportswear is about £250 what with school sports bag, general PE kit, field sports kit and cricket kit.

This year there has been about £80 in school day trips and a £400 language dept trip to France and £1000 skiing trip. The sport teams tour internationally. Usually it is just Europe but you do have some exotic trips. For example, last year the cricket team toured Australia and New Zealand. I don't know what the cost of that was.

As for extra curricular activities, that is all inclusive.

HandMadeTail · 13/06/2012 22:46

Two of my DC go to well known schools in greater London. (one boys school, one girls school.)

Fees are approx £3600 for the junior school, £4,200 in the senior school. School bus is optional, as are music and extracurricular sport, (and lunch, but they will eat!)

Trips are more in the senior school, but we have just had to pay the deposit for a trip for my other DC in a state school, which will be more than £1000, and will not be the only trip of the year. (it is optional, as are all school trips, I believe.)

Margerykemp · 13/06/2012 22:35

But other than the fees you would have these other costs at a state school too? Confused

BringBack1996 · 13/06/2012 22:29

At DS's school it is -

£4500 a term fees, which include lunches
£100 a year on uniform, but at his school it's only a sweatshirt and black trousers
£200 for music
£100 for extra curricular sport (in his case fencing)
£200 a term for school bus but sometimes he cycles.

School trips don't come about too often, but there's normally about £100 worth of compulsory ones.

I think this is very much area dependent though, and DS's school is a small, rural day school. Schools in cities tend to be a bit pricier as the running costs are higher with rent etc. Supply and demand also puts the cost up, so if it's a 'well known' school which may have more interest, they can afford higher fees.

FamiliesShareGerms · 13/06/2012 22:23

Good point. So perhaps a further £750 a year for petrol / school bus?

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Colleger · 13/06/2012 22:12

Uniform may be more. Petrol as local state school may be walkable?

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