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Private schools - do any of them allow a relaxation of the dress code in summer?

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gingerfrizz · 01/06/2012 00:34

Just to preface this by saying that I don't condone rule breaking or rebellion against school rules, but eldest daughter is struggling in the hot weather to stay 'done up' as the school dress code demands. On the warmest days I did help her to do her tie with the top button undone but hide it with the knot, but she was worried that it would become visible.

I just wondered whether it was usual form for normally strict schools to allow pupils to do this, and whether anybody else assists in this surreptitious 'rule breaking'?

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gorblimey · 06/06/2012 10:35

summer dresses in prep
senior girls uniform has no tie, thank the lord. Aertex shirt or open neck white blouse and tank top or full sleeve jumper

LIZS · 05/06/2012 18:25

In very hot weather (ie last week) ds' allows undone top button with no tie but it has to have been formally announced.

Butkin · 05/06/2012 18:17

At our school the boys wear ties all year round - no exceptions. The HM stands out on the playground as children arrive - welcoming them all by name and he'd let them know if they weren't up to scratch.

The girls wear ties from October half term to Easter. For the warmer months they are in their summer dresses so ties not a hassle. They wear blazers when moving around school and whenever they are out of school but in lessons they can take them off.

GraduallyGoingInsane · 05/06/2012 15:39

All my DDs have a different uniform from winter to summer, so it's not a huge issue.

DD1,2 and 3 wear kilt, dark tights, shirt, tie, sleeveless jumper and blazer in winter. In summer they wear a navy skirt, striped blouse with revere collar, socks/tights, sleeveless jumper and blazer. The blazer is used as a coat in summer, and hung up during the day whilst on school grounds.

DD4 wears a kilt, dark tights, shirt, tie, cardigan and blazer in winter, and a summer dress with socks, cardigan and blazer in summer.

I must say though, I'm a bit skeptical about needing to adjust clothes. I work in a profession which requires a dark suit, collared shirt, dark tights and a robe. DH is required to wear a suit and shirt and tie. DH has had to wear this sort of thing in hot countries on business (think Dubai, Saudi, etc.) Neither of us have died yet. If it's a uniform with a shirt, blazer and tie, it's not really much different to what you would wear to work in a lot of professions. Maybe I'm a hard hearted Hannah though!

ClaireAll · 03/06/2012 07:11

Yes

marriedinwhite · 02/06/2012 23:52

DS hasn't had his top button done up for years - or worn the school jersey (would rather have a tshirt underneath). In summer they can have short sleeves and I think he has simply left his suit jacket at home for the last three/four weeks and no-one has commented.

DD has a summer dress and they are allowed to carry their blazers in hot weather.

Willabywallaby · 02/06/2012 21:45

We had shirt sleev order at my school in summer, once it was announced then sleeves were rolled up (neatly) and blazers removed, it could not be removed that summer term.

DS1 is at a prep school which has allowed ties off and top buttons undone (they wear short sleeved shirts with summer uniform anyway. But they didn't allow it last year under the old head.

Loshad · 02/06/2012 21:36

Mutteroo, you're my vintage then!, not many of us left around Wink

ElphabaisWicked · 02/06/2012 19:08

At the senior school attached to the school my dc go to girls wear an open rever collar shirt no tie throughout the year. They wear a skirt suit and I see plenty of them carrying their blazers not wearing them in hot weather.

Mutteroo · 02/06/2012 18:57

DS school have relaxed the blazer rule for the past couple of very hot weeks. The boys tie rule apparently is reviewed daily, but most teachers allow lads to remove their ties during lessons. This was much as it was at my rough old comprehensive 100 years ago.

oldgreyknickertest · 01/06/2012 14:04

Have name changed not just for this thread.

Ginger, how silly, sounds like my stupid English girls' school. Ds, at well known fee paying day school, is in shirt sleeve order for this week as it is so hot and they have been doing exams.

When I was a child in Australia there were three sets of uniform orders, winter, summer, and Really Hot. On RH days one didn't have to wear gloves (hats were still compulsory but that makes sense) and senior girls didn't have to wear tights. And RH was defined by the temperature. Far more sensible.

watfordmummy · 01/06/2012 14:03

at my school, if you had cardigan on the sleeves had to be down not pushed up "like a fish wife"! Sticks with me today, will look at pushed up sleeves as daring!! Shock

watfordmummy · 01/06/2012 14:01

we have short sleeves order days at our dss school too, but ties and blazers have to be on to leave the school at the end of the day.

Today was mufti day for Jubilee celebrations.

gingerfrizz · 01/06/2012 13:58

I agree, but I think a slightly loosened tie can still look smart

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Sarcalogos · 01/06/2012 13:54

Yes, to be honest I think a half undone tie always looks chavvy! Which is why it is banned I imagine!

gingerfrizz · 01/06/2012 13:41

It's ok sarca, just curious to see whether they good undone 'neatly' or like chavs, IYKWIM? This is senior school I assume?

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Sarcalogos · 01/06/2012 13:08

I'm reporting myself for abysmal spelling. I'm sacking myself with immediate effect, please turn a blind eye!

Sarcalogos · 01/06/2012 13:07

ginger Im sure precise measurements vary with the strictness of each individual, as I say it isn't an official policy- more us taking pity of them (our school seem incapable of turning some radiators off even in this weather).

I find the girls often do not actually loosen there's at all, In my classes it tends to be the boys and only a few inches then. Make of that what you will. I make them do them up before they are excused to the loo/end of lesson. evil bitch teacher

Hulababy · 01/06/2012 13:00

DD's school has a summer and a winter uniform.

Winter - skirt, tights/long socks, blouse, tie, cardi
Summer - school dress, socks, cardi OR (for Y5/6) skirt, striped blouse, socks, cardi

I don't like the skirt/blouse summer uniform, neither does DD - so she always wears the dress. Much cooler on the hot days too.

I went to a state school and we had to wear same uniform year round, including tie. Could only remove tie is school officially said so, which was rare.

Mind you, Dh has to wear suit and tie to work every day and no relaxation there.

BringBack1996 · 01/06/2012 12:56

DS's old school had 'shirt sleeve order' and tbh it was complete and utter crap. The cut off temperature for being allowed to take off your blazer was 27 degrees!! And even then it was either no tie and no blazer or full uniform. I always felt sorry for the girls tbh as they had massive, thick high waisted kilts on with no alternative summer skirt.

mummytime · 01/06/2012 12:52

Gingerfizz my kids Comp would not allow ties to be loosened, actually they are far stricter than the girls selective, but probably not as stuffy as the boys (private) grammar.

AliceInSandwichLand · 01/06/2012 12:03

My own (private) girls' school abolished ties in 1979! - and my daughters' (private) girls' schools have never had them either. I think an open necked shirt is far more sensible than a tie, and looks smarter than ties at all sorts of odd angles and lengths, too. I agree that little boys look sweet in ties, but looking cute is not really the main reason for going to school, is it? ; )

gingerfrizz · 01/06/2012 12:02

Sarcalogos - how loosened are the girls allowed to have their ties in lessons? I'm sure that's not allowed at DD's school

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stealthsquiggle · 01/06/2012 11:55

I have just checked uniform policy at one of the schools we are considering for DS - summer clothing means no jackets or ties except for formal occasions, and no jackets for girls (who wear open necked blouses anyway).

Sittinginthesun · 01/06/2012 11:55

I think 8 year old boys, wearing school shorts, shirts and ties look lovely. :)