detention for mobile phone use

Sitting doing nothing for an hour is a huge challenge for most children, the need to be relentlessly engaged seems to be a prime drive now.
So I do think it is a good punishment for the majority.
Sending text messages in school is one of the aspects of cyber bullying that the school can control.

'It's a bloody stupid rule, if I need to pick up DD from school, I need to tell her before the end of last lesson.
By the time she's booted her phone she's on her bus.'

Why would your arrangements be so last-minute, startail, and what happens when she gets home on the bus as usual, having got your message too late?

You could phone the office and they would send a message.

Banning the unbannable, I'm not a teen my iPod gets the better of me

Oh yes. In a homework for missing a homework deadline they do their homework.

And then copy for any remaining time.

It's a bloody stupid rule, if I need to pick up DD from school, I need to tell her before the end of last lesson.
By the time she's booted her phone she's on her bus.

Absolutely agree they shouldn't come out in lessons.

Anyway DCs will just sneak into the loos, far side of the field. Whatever is the point in banning the . It just makes the school look petty.

My school takes the policy of 'if you waste my time, I'll waste yours' so that means sitting doing absolutely nothing if you gained the detention for an anti-social reason (rather than, e.g. not doing any work). Fair enough IMO.

Dcs are allowed to use their phones at school, just not during lessons etc.
The only other rule is no talking photos of the other dcs without permission.

Same rules at ours too. I'm glad the school are hot on it really.

Neva - it's unanimous!

One important thing to do as a parent is to support the school rule rather than by seen by your DD to undermine it. So please don't say "There there dear, the school were jolly unfair." Instead, give it some "You knew the rules, you broke them, your fault, you take the punishment"

It would be impossible to police a first/second warning on mobile phones in a secondary school given the number of pupils and staff. Just logging it would be an unwieldy nightmare - hence, in my school if a mb phone is seen it's confiscated for a parent/guardian to collect.

As for detentions, each school has its own policy. Sitting there doing nothing is the punishment. Students at my school have to work, but pupils have been known to produce a previous piece of work as evidence so much to their disgruntlement we put the time in the margin.

Rules and sanctions made clear applied fairly and evenly to all has to be the only fair way, surely. Hopefully your dd has learned that the school are serious with their rules and will stick with them in future and will then also enjoy the experience of being educated in a place where other pupils know that the rules are upheld too.

Nope. No homework.

And friends can't stay with you either (as requested tonight...)

Detention, fair enough.

I think they should be allowed to do homework, or read. But then I'm a big softie.

DSs after school detentions have consisted of watching a drama production dress rehearsal, as well as reading comics provided by the school

I'm surprised they don't hand out snacks too.

Sanction, not sanguine.

Consistency is absolutely key in school.

If you found out that another child had received a lesser sanguine for the same thing, would you be happy that they differed on a case by case basis?

Have you supported the school with your DD, or have you said to her what you are saying here?

but...how would one member of staff know that it was the first time? You could have a scenario that staff member A saw your DD and told her to put the phone away, that was her first and final warning.....DD walks to another part of the site and staff member B sees your DD using her phone and says that's your first and final warning......it could go on and on, including your DD claiming to staff member C that this was the first time.......there has to be a line and your DD's school has decided that it is the first time it is seen - this would have been communicated to all (students/staff/parents)

A lot of my year 10s work very hard at trying to get away with an hour of doing nothing...

She knew the rules.

She broke the rules.

I think it's reasonable.

I make them copy out because they'd rather sit and daydream.

What (if anything) have you said to the school, and what line have you taken with your Dd?

Entirely normal at my kids old school, theory is everyone knew the rule of no phones during the school day so if you chose to flout the rule, you did the time. I would've backed the detention if it had happened to DD or DS.

I would give a detention for phone use and the phone would be confiscated.

I would require a student to be actively engaged in a task of my choosing during detention. In this case it would probably be copying the school expectations. I would not allow the student to do homework.

More and more schools are re-writing their policies regarding mobile phone use due to the amount of disruption and bullying they cause. If it is in the school policy then she has just got to live with it - it would not have been a surprise, schools do inform the students of the rules......

In terms of sitting and doing nothing in the detention - I personally prefer this! If they were allowed to do their homework, then its nothing more than a homework club rather than a punishment. Although, it is unusual not to have some form of work to do (in the schools I have worked, we had a bank of especially for detentions, including copying out sheets nothing to do with actual lessons)

In ours the phone is confiscated for a week, second offence and it's a year!