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DD didn't get GCSE options

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El24 · 24/04/2012 10:05

Just found out from DD that she didn't get her GCSE choices despite currently being in the top set for the chosen subject. She wants to be a doctor and having the triple science option is key to her future ? this has been confirmed by several F.E colleges. I also found out someone who isn't in the top set got in. To say we are deeply disappointed is an understatement. I've already called up the school and been fobbed off. Is there anything we can do?

Thanks in advance.

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macaroonmunch · 01/05/2012 17:48

There won't be any medical schools in the country that won't except double science because that would automatically exclude some candidates. This was the case when I applied to medical the year before last. I only had double science and still got offers (including from Oxbridge). Specifically for oxbridge it would certainly be better to have 2 As over 3As because your A% determines what BMAT score you need for interview.

talkingnonsense · 30/04/2012 21:07

Have you had any answers op?

circular · 27/04/2012 13:13

OP - Could the school be taking other levels rather than than just those for science into consideration?
I know at DD's school. as well as needing a 6 (possibly 6a, can't quite remember) for science, they also wanted at least 6a for maths and 5a for English.

Kez100 · 27/04/2012 12:44

Then your daughter won't have fewer GCSEs if she does double because she will have two sciences plus another GCSE which she studies in the extra 5 hours a fortnight not being used for triple. Both pathways give a possible three GCSEs.

El24 · 27/04/2012 12:23

I wonder if the triple results have a bearing on being studied in normal science curriculum time. Ours get the extra, what is it, 2.5 hours a week for triple?

The school allocates 15hrs per fortnight to the triple science group and only 10 for the dual award.

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El24 · 27/04/2012 12:19

What type of school is this? Is it a comp? Those results look terrible.

Inner London comp.

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Kez100 · 26/04/2012 06:58

I wonder if the triple results have a bearing on being studied in normal science curriculum time. Ours get the extra, what is it, 2.5 hours a week for triple? Whatever an option block give. By the time you pull out all the time needed for controlled assessments, maybe it's the choice to 'cram' it which is the problem. Or, at least part of the problem.

gettingalifenow · 26/04/2012 06:50

My understanding for medicine and Oxbridge science is that if triple is offered, you should have done it. hOWEVER, with results that poor across the year group at the OP"s school, unis. might apply different criteria - some admissions officers particularly look for results for an applicant better than their schools average or norm - so if the OP's DD does get 2 A*s at double science (and then everything else needed incl good BMAT scores etc) then perversely, she might be looked on favourably - it may come down to the individual school's performance.

Kez100 · 26/04/2012 06:43

.....I would have expected better triple results from a specially chosen small cohort, all who were at the top of their game.

Also, how can they have 'almost guaranteed' a triple study place when the number they choose sounds likely to be less than in the top set!

Kez100 · 26/04/2012 06:40

Those results are weaker than our comp (which loses about 10% to the local grammar). We have about 30'triple entries and we probably have an average of B but any 6 level can take it and we always get 3 or 4 who smash out A* across the three.

Not sure about double because they don't tend to make the headlines but we do get clever children do double - usually where they love languages, humanities or arts rather than wanting a scientific career.

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gelatinous · 25/04/2012 23:55

At my dc's independent, a few of the brightest children choose double to fit in an extra language or whatever instead. It's not stopped them go on to medicine/science later on either and they have actually had the choice to do triple and declined (which someone upthread suggested might be relevant). To be fair though, I don't think anyone's taken that path (medicine from double science) for a few years now, but that's probably just a statistical thing as I'm only talking about the occasional child here.

OP those results look a bit grim - your dd will need to be right at the top of her cohort to get the grades needed for medicine whichever route she goes. Some external tutoring wouldn't go amiss if the school hasn't taken steps to improve things.

Loshad · 25/04/2012 23:27

those results are awful Sad
to whoever above asked about students at Oxbridge doing medicine with double - i know several, whilst at my own school nearly all the kids do triple, at the indi my boys go to core and additional is the only option. They get between 18-25 into Oxbridge every year, they all have done double only. At least 3 of last years year 13 are at Oxbridge doing medicine with core and additional (all with A*s though) this year.

Mendeleyev · 25/04/2012 22:16

What type of school is this? Is it a comp? Those results look terrible.

El24 · 25/04/2012 19:10

These targets were set in Yr7 mind.

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El24 · 25/04/2012 19:00

Her target for end of KS3 is 6b, but she's already exceeded that.

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El24 · 25/04/2012 18:57

I've just taken a look at last year's GCSE results and the results are grim. Out of 110 girls entered for Core Science only ONE got an A and 13 got an A. The rest trickled over up to U grades. As for the 24 entered for triple set, it's a B grade average. Only a few scraped an A/A. By the looks of things, I'm probably better off doing it independently.

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/04/2012 18:35

I wouldn't consult a parent over level 6s if that was the right level for that child. What is her target for end of KS3? Mind you, I wouldn't promise triple science places until I had done the setting.

Coconutty · 25/04/2012 18:33

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TheFallenMadonna · 25/04/2012 18:33

36 would be a really bad number actually. Too big for a lab (I have fitted a group of 33 in my room, but only just), and too small to be divided in two. Staffing two top sets of 18 just wouldn't happen.

El24 · 25/04/2012 18:29

There are 180 girls in the year, so accommodating 36 for something which in some schools is considered core shouldn't really be a problem!

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El24 · 25/04/2012 18:27

@Yellowtip I think the question must be: is the decision because the school doesn't think she's up to triple science for whatever reason and please could they tell you straight.
Of course, if she is struggling to keep up, then I would hope the school would consult with me to help her achieve the levels she's capable of. The prob is they have said nothing of the sort so I'm only to assume based on her levels given she is doing okay.

@BrigitBigKnickers I would query the only 25 places for triple science anyway- what if there was a very bright year group and there were many more pupils that had the ability to take it? Seems very rigid.
I'm trying to schedule a meeting with the head and will try and see if they can accommodate more students on the programme. Two slightly smaller triple science sets are most definitely better than one.

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BabsJansen · 25/04/2012 18:20

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noblegiraffe · 25/04/2012 18:19

It does seem an artificial restriction on numbers. They can't argue that there's no room in that triple science set because there aren't enough desks in the labs, unless it's some sort of micro-school. I'd be interested to know their justification for such a small class.

TheFallenMadonna · 25/04/2012 18:14

I know. And the knock on effect on their lower groups...

Have there been issues with their triple science results I wonder?

noblegiraffe · 25/04/2012 18:12

I'd love a top set class of 24 students - imagine what you could get done with that small a class of bright kids!