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new RG uni's

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betternextlife · 12/03/2012 21:05

Announced today are 4 additions to the RG Group of Unis, Durham, Exeter, Queen Mary, and York. They were all previously part of the 1994 Group.

They all had a good reputation to start with and are not likely to be doing anything differenty at all, but presumably they think this will make them seem better.

So the question remains as to if any 'uni associations' which confer status really based on any actual superiority or just self-imposed hype.

Having taught within a range of institutions (including RG) I think that that it is definately the latter.

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The5thFishy · 12/03/2012 23:48

How does a university change groups then? 1994 group must be pissed off.

senua · 12/03/2012 23:38

startail The Russell Group was, confusingly, formed in 1994, the same as the 1994 Group. The original differentiation was not in quality but quantity: they were both research-focussed but RG Universities were bigger institutions than 1994s.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 23:14

Those two are RG though.

WMDinthekitchen · 12/03/2012 23:13

Dahhhhling... surely there are only two universities... all this RG stuff is just rubbish, surely...

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 23:07

Perhaps use a pick-a-stick type thing?

Chubfuddler · 12/03/2012 23:05

For the record I would like to say I have a near perfect command of spelling and grammar, but since using an iPhone to mn it has deteriorated because I am ham fisted when typing with my thumb.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 23:04

Thanks doctor :)

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 23:03

@ Chub Not exactly.

Lecture and lecturer yes. Definately and definitely no. Certaintly and certainly no.

'unless they are certain of brilliance of having a less than AAB insurance offer' - no. Definitely no. I'd tell my kids to ask for their money back, for sure.

heliumballoon · 12/03/2012 23:01

FGS, OP makes perfect sense. What a strange thing to have a go about yellow. Let's be nice to each other, eh?

doctordwt · 12/03/2012 23:01

Agree with yellowtip. Nothing to do with typing errors, although they 'definately' didn't help. It's more that the whole post comes across as badly written, badly thought out, and not even asking a very coherent question.

And it's fewer students, not less - just another one to add to the list.

It's now commonplace for people to think that poor grammar, poor spelling and poor sentence construction are basically fine and don't detract from general understanding. They do.

Chubfuddler · 12/03/2012 22:57

See how easily it can happen?

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:53

I expect Durham would have been better thought of, and Exeter too.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:52

Bugger. lecturers.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:52

RG lectures should be both. All my tutors were.

startail · 12/03/2012 22:50

When was the RG founded, because I'm sure no one mentioned it when I did my degree, Leeds, Exeter and Durham would have been as well thought of as Birmingham and probably as hard to get into. I applied to Queen Mary's, but hated the area.

Oh and yellow shut up, spelling ability is a very poor measure of intelligence. My DSIS isn't in the least academic, but she's a jolly good proof reader.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:50

I'm simply saying that if people come on to MN holding themselves out as RG lecturers and starting a discussion based on the elitism of the RG then they should spell, on duty or off. Literacy doesn't end at 5pm.

I expect my kids to be taught by people who are at least as articulate as they are, not less so, or why are they borrowing money to pay exorbitant fees? That surely isn't much of an ask?

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 12/03/2012 22:45

It should be, and is, asked of them at work. She's not at work now. She also gave quite a full and detailed response to the actual issues at stake here, which you have ignored in favour of being unpleasant about some typing errors. The only reason, for example, that I put 'mn' in my last post is that the iPad offered mums eat, mums the or mums net. Had I not noticed, any of those could have got through.

You're being unpleasant and rude and I think you should stop it.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:43

Thanks best :)

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:42

If OP is a lecturer at a decent university she should be able to be articulate, MN/ wine/ phone or not. It's got sod all to do with being a cow.

RG lecturers demand a decent standard from their undergrads, so a decent standard should be asked of them.

Nothing precious about that.

thebestisyettocome · 12/03/2012 22:41

I'm with Yellowtip. Uni's jumped out at me too....

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 12/03/2012 22:37

Nobody is judging your dcs' pss on this thread, so why not stop being such a cow, hmm?

iPads, glasses of wine, tiredness and human error can make someone more likely to make typos. This is mn, not an application to the ahrc for goodness' sake.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:31

There's nothing jerky at all about my comments jaque. A RG lecturer who can't spell or string a coherent sentence together! Of course it matters if they're setting themselves up to judge our DCs' PSs. Nothing shallow at all. Most apps for jobs and places are binned with language skills this poor, so don't be too dismissive. It matters, this stuff.

jaquelinehyde · 12/03/2012 22:23

It is utterly shit that someone starts a perfectly decent thread and then some picky fool comes along and starts picking on their spelling and grammar, oh and lets not forget the punctuation!!

Seriously yellow if you have nothing to contribute then bugger off and stop being a jerk.

Yellowtip · 12/03/2012 22:15

Well actually I've just been savage within a batch of applications which are sloppy on that front.

So don't believe it.

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betternextlife · 12/03/2012 22:13

My typing skills on my phone leave a lot to be desired....

But actually spelling tests are not an interview requirement to an RG (or any other uni as a lecturer). You need a PhD and publications of course, but they are usually proof read by someone else.....

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