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Year 9 options help

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domesticgodessintraining · 20/01/2012 12:10

Would ICT, geography and business studies be classed as weak GCSE options by Universities, or would it be better to do ICT, Geog, History or RS?

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AMumInScotland · 23/01/2012 12:58

RS is a much more "respected" subject than ICT, business studies or child development, so if she thinks she may go an academic route, I'd suggest that was the best of those options.

But if she really has an interest in one of the other areas, and wants a chance to "try it out" then this is an opportunity for her to do that. Your first list of subjects (Matsh etc) are all very "good" from an academic point of view, so she should be able to pick her final option(s) without worrying if they aren't as academic. It's only DC who are trying to pick all "less academic" subjects who are likely to have problems.

eatyourveg · 23/01/2012 12:49

Personally I'd go for RS as a lot of places do the Philosophy & Ethics syllabus which could then lead onto Philosophy A level and beyond which afaik is highly respectable. ICT has been so slated our school no longer offer it, she probably already knows as much as she will ever need to unless she wants to go into something specific such as programming etc

domesticgodessintraining · 23/01/2012 10:07

Sorry me again. If DD is taking Maths (higher paper) Eng Lang, Eng Lit, Chemistry, Biology, Physics, French and Geography would taking ICT and either Business studies or child development put her at a disadvantage as she?s not clear about what she wants to do in the future.
At the moment she is interested in teaching would taking RS be a better option in the long run?
She is very good at ICT the course could be taken off timetable at school in favour of a more academic subject during school but I worry that things might get on top of her.

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ClothesOfSand · 22/01/2012 11:57

Some schools do a full GCSE as compulsory, some do half a GCSE as compulsory, some offer it as an option. DS will have to do full RE, but he isn't taking the ethics unit; he is doing the religion and expressive art unit instead. DD will not have to do RE at GCSE. It varies from school to school.

I'm also wondering what counts as an academic subject and what doesn't. I'm assuming that RE does, Drama doesn't and Art definitely does not. But then Drama involves writing about plays, which is surely more challenging and academic than RE?

Bossybritches22 · 22/01/2012 11:51

I would just add to the above that yes the Art course is quite time consuming but both my DD's chose it as an extra they enjoyed and as "light relief" from their other basic studies. Not to say they didn't/don't try their hardest but they did it as something that they were good at that was different and stimulates a different part of their brain! DD1 got a C pass & DD2 is on course for an A but that was a bonus for us.

RS nowadays is more ethical studies than religious, they cover a wide range of topics not just the bible. I can't understand though why they only get "half" a GCSE, if it's a compulsory subject why not get a whole pass?

Smum99 · 22/01/2012 11:31

I think with GCSE choices you just need to consider what the likely A levels choices will be. It's fine to do a lighter subject and some schools recommend it. The grades achieved in GCSEs are more important than the number..8As would be preferable to 11 GCSEs with a mixture of A, B or Cs.

The Oxbridge and Russell Group tend to look for a good mix of solid subjects at GCSE and certainly A & A*, 8 to 10 GCSEs are usual.

ClothesOfSand · 22/01/2012 11:19

How many academic GCSEs are universities looking for? DS will be starting 11 plus 2 non-academic next year. DD will be going to a different school and will be doing 8 plus 4 non-academic. When I was at school we only did 8 GCSEs in total, so I'm assuming 8 is enough but perhaps I am behind the times. Do universities care about non-academic GCSEs or do they just ignore them?

eatyourveg · 22/01/2012 10:00

anyone know what statistics is like? It used to be compulsory for the top maths set but not anymore. Is it hard or a waste of time? ds3 really struggling to find the last choice and the reserve

startail · 21/01/2012 20:28

Half a GCSE in RE is compulsory at DD1s school (state comp. Non religious)

She's had her form signed to say she is not doing the EBac, she is dyslexic and cannot spell in English let alone French.
She's put geography, music, computing (strange new course) and art for fun (she loves it, she isn't terribly good).
She wants to do something scientific so she needs 3 sciences, geography and maths at as higher grade as possible. The others we'll see.

Summersoon · 21/01/2012 20:17

Thanks! I am a bit surprised that this is a mandatory subject; it is taught as a non-GCSE subject in DD's school. Unless the school is a religious one, I suppose?

marriedinwhite · 21/01/2012 19:21

Religious Studies.

Summersoon · 21/01/2012 19:16

Err. what does "RS" stand for please? Blush

eandemum · 21/01/2012 16:35

My Yr 9 DS is choosing his soon - we have the dreaded informative Options evening next week.
He came home with the Options booklet this week and it has led to more Qs than answers.

It WAS simpler in the 80s wasn't it or is my memory going?! Wink

GCSE Computing or GCSE ICT ??
D/T - thee are 3 subjects for this Resistant Materials, Product Design & Electronics - Didn't that used to be CDT woodwork/metalwork?

Can you do History A-level but not History at GCSE?

marriedinwhite · 21/01/2012 12:21

I am always surprised at how much fuss there is over this. At ds's school the compulsory subject are:

Eng lang, Eng lit, RS, Maths, French, Physics, Chemistry, Biology. DS then chose from a long list of options: History, Latin and Art. We thought he had chosen sensibly and had no argument with him or the school. We were quite proud that he chose to do Greek as an optional extra and went in early twice a week to do it.

chipmunksex · 20/01/2012 21:24

I keep asking ds (13) about his options and has he had a letter or a leaflet for us to look at, but nothing.

I checked the school website + nothing.

I am right in thinking he'll have to choose soon aren't I? Or am I an idiot? quite possible

Frets

senua · 20/01/2012 15:37

"How can school not be doing the Ebacc? Surely they are offering sciences, maths, english and options of a language and history or geography."

Languages are only compulsory to KS3. A lot of schools totally dropped all languages for KS4, so no GCSE were available. This is is why the Govt invented the EBacc - now that certain things are being 'measured' schools are suddenly a bit more keen on them.Hmm
Also, some schools do a Humanities GCSE which is a mishmash of Hist+Geog+RE.

eatyourveg · 20/01/2012 15:37

The Ebacc is not compulsory in our school though english, maths, at least 2 sciences and MFL are compulsory and always have been, there is no insistence on doing either history or geography. The option leaflet has half a page on the Ebacc and says the school has no intention of altering the way students choose subjects but goes on to say that for those students wishing to go to university it is advisable to choose either history or geography ensuring a more rounded education which universities will look for in students.

crazynanna · 20/01/2012 15:33

Yes our school have EBacc or Open Pathways. All GCSE.
EBacc is somewhat compulsary in some choices whereas OP is completely choices,except obviously for Eng,Maths

RaspberryLemonPavlova · 20/01/2012 15:10

How can school not be doing the Ebacc? Surely they are offering sciences, maths, english and options of a language and history or geography. Do you mean its up to students to choose and it isn't compulsory?

RaspberryLemonPavlova · 20/01/2012 15:06

DSs school has suggested they think carefully about their choices bearing in mind EBacc, but is nor forcing it. They have always pushed a MFL for students following the academic pathways though.

So DS, who wanted Geography and Geology, is doing Italian instead of History. which he would have preferred. Also chose GCSE Music, but that was in a different column. (Plus core of triple science, maths, english, bpe).

I'd treat ICT with caution, depending on what her future ideas are.

senua · 20/01/2012 14:36

The EBacc is a measure of 'allroundedness'. If a pupil can get it then it would be a shame not to have it. But if a pupil is not capable or actively dislikes the subjects then it is daft to pursue it - they should stick to the things that they are good at / enjoy.
The EBacc was never intended to be something that all pupils get.

domesticgodessintraining · 20/01/2012 14:27

It?s compulsory to do a language and the usual maths, Eng lang, English Lit, Science the rest are optional at her school. The school is not doing the EBach.

She really enjoys Art but so many people have told her GCSE Art is too time consuming and slightly boring.

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crazynanna · 20/01/2012 14:25

Open Pathway is where you have full free reign on the subjects you choose...as opposed to the EBac where it's French or Spanish and History or Geography...then you choose the others yourself.

I think Confused

God it's all so different to when I went to school in 1902

senua · 20/01/2012 14:23

What is Open Pathway?

GypsyMoth · 20/01/2012 14:17

Lots of emphasis on eng bacc at our school. Lots