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Ofsted Inspections - WHY GIVE NOTICE!!

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bossboggle · 06/10/2011 20:24

Does anyone out there agree with me that OFSTED inspections should just happen - not with 48 hours notice, they should just walk in and see a school warts and all - not with the edges smoothed out - a good school should have nothing to change. A school about six miles away from us virtually sat on their year 8 and 9's and as it was an appropriate time of the year told their entire year 11 group not to attend on those two days that the ofsted team were in (from a year 11 pupil who had planned to go in as things were supposed to be happening for their year group but were cancelled!!) - the result was they were graded good with a few outstanding points whilst under normal circumstances the school population there causes chaos for the local residents with extreme bad behaviour and disgusting language directed at anyone who gets in the way. I think no school should have any warning and they should be judged for what they are not for how they wish to be seen!! Anyone agree?? My DS's school was recently judged good with outstanding teaching practices, yes they are good and are incredibly approachable for a senior school but they still warned their pupils about what standards were expected but at least ALL of the pupils were present and not just years 7 through to 10!!

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TheFarSide · 07/10/2011 00:19

Agree. I wouldn't have believed such a corrupt system could exist if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes.

twinklytroll · 07/10/2011 00:13

As a teacher I agree.

bossboggle · 06/10/2011 23:25

Yes it all goes back to the presentation thing!! Ultimately schools present a false face to the outside world - wonder what the parents would do if they saw the real side of things??

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redglow · 06/10/2011 22:31

I think lots of pupils are excluded for not much reason when ofsted is due. They should just turn up without any warning.

bossboggle · 06/10/2011 21:25

Totally totally agree, the extra stress placed on the teaching staff isn't good for anyone - you guys have a hard enough job to do anyway without being asked to look over your shoulders all the time!! Just let the inspectors in for two days and say look this is how we teach - it works for the other 99.99% of the time when you guys aren't around and we survive!! Much less stress!! Why can't you be left to get on with your job?? Never had OFSTED when I went to school just dammed good teachers - didn't need OFSTED!! And you know what .....we all got there in the end, so will today's youngsters and in how ever many years OFSTED will be just a blot on someone's bad memories in life!! If things can't be done honestly then they shouldn't be done at all!!

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kritur · 06/10/2011 21:00

Agreed also as a secondary teacher (albeit not currently teaching in a school). Last ofsted we got notice on the thursday for inspection on monday, the school was open all through the weekend and late night thurs/fri. There was a consultant in to check lesson plans, the cleaners and caretakers were armed with tins of paint (so much so that I got wet paint on my blouse and handbag), some pupils were curiously absent, as were some teachers....... The school got good (not a school I would count as 'good'). I personally got good with outstanding for my lesson but I didn't do anything different from what I would usually except I wrote a detailed lesson plan.

The whole thing is a fix, but then if it wasn't then society, government, parents etc would have to admit that there is something very wrong with what's happening at the moment.

bushymcbush · 06/10/2011 20:54

I actually agree with you, and I am a secondary school teacher. Last inspection we had, we were given sheets of information we ought to know about and school was open until 9pm for the preceding two nights so teachers could stay late to prepare lessons / get up to date with marking etc.

The stress and pressure we all felt to work in a completely different way (and an unsustainably difficult way) to normal was immense.

We got a 'good' judgement. We probably deserved it - we ARE good - but we didn't need the 48 hrs notice to achieve it. All that achieved was very tired, highly strung teachers.