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Northbridge House Senior & Royal School Hampstead- to merge sept 2012

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sparklerach · 02/09/2011 22:02

Any other parents at NBH/Royal School Hampstead on Mumsnet? We received a letter today from head of Cognita(who own NBH schools) saying they've bought the Royal School and are moving the Senior school from the current site at Gloucester Gate(Camden) to the soon to be ex Royal School site at Rosslyn Hill Hampstead.

I'm a parent of a child starting yr 7 at NBH and live North East of the current site and are quite upset. The timing also feels rather off, having just made our 1st of the Month payment for fees - now we discover that at least for us the school we carefully chose for our child will change considerably(double in size, vastly more girls as it absorbs a single sex girls school) and be twice as far away in 1 year's time.

Can't tell you how annoyed I am having turned away offers from closer more 'academic' schools because I particularly wanted my child to attend a mixed smaller school with good results but not a hot house and most crucially - a short commute from home. Truly annoying as of course there are many options school wise in the Hampstead area - none of which we investigated as the commute is tricky from where we live.

I am also not reassured by the promise of extensive remodelling of the very grim looking Royal School site to provide 'state of the art facilities'. This building work would need to be undertaken next summer, since I think the Royal School is continuing as usual this academic year(nothing on their website indicates otherwise) - which means a short schedule & not likely to be truly transformative in scope, as there simply isn't time to do much in 6 weeks and they will have to do a great deal of mundane stuff to convert to mixed gender and create more classrooms.

Not thrilled....

as an aside- is it just me that thinks the Royal School Hampstead website is rather twee? www.royalschoolhampstead.net/
not to mention hardly indicative when you see the actual school site on street view (click on the school on the map to view)...
maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=embed&hl=en&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=46.630055,87.1875&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=41.890062,12.492549&panoid=07gbqMWIg_HId5m7W94qHg&cbp=12,301.45,,0,-4.23&ll=41.889579,12.49307&spn=0.002692,0.005322&z=18&utm_campaign=en&utm_medium=et&utm_source=en-et-na-us-gns-svn

I don't mean to offend any parents at RSH...I am aware it is likely to be better than my impressions just feeling rather wary and bruised..

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doesnotlivelocally · 11/03/2012 00:02

Hampstead, what made you seek out this thread? Why rubbish both schools and the parents who send their children there?
You wouldn't send a dying rat there...really?Sad

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Turniphead1 · 26/01/2012 18:44

Thanks doesnotlivelocally. Really helpful. I am sure it will all work out in the end. Like others - Camden for prep really suits us much more than Hampstead - and by time they need to go to the Senior School they can make their own way there.

doesnotlivelocally · 24/01/2012 23:03

Turniphead1 I do not think that you would be completely bonkers to consider it. I am sure that they will be able to prioritise your children as the school will still be 'small' even when merged, in comparison to others. I would visit.

BTW are there any RSH parents out there? I had heard that the deadline for acceptance of a place, by the RSH girls, at the newly merged school was to be sometime in January. Has this deadline passed? Does anyone know what the take-up rate is?

Turniphead1 · 24/01/2012 12:42

Just reading these posts about the NBH/RSH. I am in the process of looking into moving my two eldest kids yr 1(boy) and yr3(girl) into the independent sector. We live in N8 which has a dearth of nearby ind schools (with exception of Channing & Highgate that are v hard to get into). I knew (a little) of the merger situation and when I called NBH funnily enough they were very keen for us to come in Smile. Am I completely bonkers to consider an educational setting in so much flux when I have the chance to avoid?
My worry would be that notwithstanding the "bigger" issues - the settling in of two new kids could be at the very bottom of the lost of priorities with everything they have to deal with.

SFLLB3 · 10/11/2011 12:54

I have a year 9 daughter at RSH and she was so anxious about the move to co-ed. A week or so ago, some NBH pupils visited and she was pleasantly surprised by how friendly and supportive they were, in relation to the planned merger. She's definitely reassured and so am I. Agree with other posters on here, about the size advantage and general facilities at the Hampstead site ; NBH pupils even commented on this during their visit. Just hope some of the excellent RSH teaching staff (particularly maths, science and modern languages) get kept on. The grapevine suggests otherwise.

doesnotlivelocally · 21/10/2011 13:32

Mrs Rumpole, I am so glad that you have been reassured. We visited RSH this week too. It all looks very promising for most.

MrsRumpole · 20/10/2011 18:25

We visited NBH today- I was very impressed with the Head Teacher. The kids seem to be very well- behaved and polite, standing up instantly when Miss Ayres walked into the classroom! Wow, my girl's not used to that! The classrooms are so poky and cramped, the NBH pupils wont believe it when they get to RSH. Just wait until you get up to the fourth and fifth floors- views over London you would not believe. I used to sneak up there on a winter's morning, just to get a look at the skyline.
NBH is of course a lovely building, but RSH is and will be more purpose built. I'm feeling much more positive than I did in September when we first got the news. Ms Ayres tells me that there is going to be three class entry from 2012. and the GCSE options have increased.

MrsRumpole · 10/10/2011 08:48

If there are any parents out there with junior school daughters at RSH- you may find it difficult to obtain summer dresses- uniform4kids are planning to wind down all their RSH stock, and certainly wont be restocking summer dresses. There could be a problem getting them in April, you might want to think about getting one or two now.... What a nuisance! We'll all be buying NBH uniforms within months of having to stock up on summer wear for RSH.

doesnotlivelocally · 09/10/2011 18:26

Exactly, parents at both schools won't but Royal school parents will have to.

100lilgreen · 09/10/2011 17:08

The parents at the Royal will have to buy a new uniform, no?

doesnotlivelocally · 09/10/2011 16:42

100lilgreen, No there will be no mention of the Royal in either the name or the uniform unless they change their mind. As I said, at the meeting for NBH parents on the first day of term, Sir Christopher was specifically asked these questions and said that the school would be called NBH and the uniform would be the current NBH uniform.

I think the name would be too unwieldy otherwise and I am pleased about the uniform as parents at both schools will not have to fork out for a whole new uniform.

100lilgreen · 09/10/2011 13:53

So there is no mention of the Royal in either the name or the uniform?!

doesnotlivelocally · 08/10/2011 20:54

100lilgreen, the school is to be called NBHS School. Sir Christopher said this at the meeting for NBH parents. The school uniform will be the NBH Senior School uniform.

I received a letter this morning to say that the NBH parent's visits are on the week commencing 17th October (as promised).

I too am concerned that parents can be identified on the online forum (even though I feel positive about the merger) as I feel parents will not be candid. Last time I looked it was dead (except for the original letters telling as about the move). Wink

MrsRumpole · 08/10/2011 11:45

Good morning
Sparklerach- I have to tell you with a heavy heart that the deal is done, despite the valiant and determined efforts of the Royal School parents. They fought long and hard, but Cognita now own the school and yes, as you say, by September 2012 RSH will be part of NBH.
However, as I mentioned in an earlier posting, Sir Christopher and his team did not realise the passion and committment or, indeed, the anger of RSH parents. This has led to many meetings about what RSH parents want to see in the new school, including an increase in GCSE subjects,(languages) particular attention to the creative arts, and continuing excellence in learning support. It's what we all want to hear.
Re: The forum, it's a bit dead anyway at the moment, but do air any concerns you have, I think they are being answered promptly.

It sounds as though the merger will be dealt with in a sensitive way, but who knows for sure. My daughter is worried she will lose some of her best teachers, and this would be a disaster as some of them are excellent, outstanding.

And regarding the walk from NBH, cut through Primrose Hill via Gloucester Terrace, , over the bridge, up Haverstock Hill and Bob's your uncle!!

100lilgreen · 08/10/2011 11:44

I wonder what the new merged school will be called?!

sparklerach · 07/10/2011 22:15

Mrs Rumpole- please do keep posting updates about what is going on with RS parents. I have great sympathy for you as it must surely be a very stressful time, especially if what you're saying about there not yet being full closure about what is happening. NBH parents have been presented with the story of a 'done deal'. Our letter said we 'will be moving in September 2012'.. etc. so it is of great interest to me that there are still negotiations ongoing.

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sparklerach · 07/10/2011 22:10

Anyone else puzzled by the comment that the Royal site is only a 15 min walk from the Senior school...eh? It's 2 miles ? (google maps estimates 44 min)
Although walking time between would never be relevant to me personally I think parents worried about this are not at all being unreasonable. In our circumstances the free bus between the sites is pointless. Making their general School Bus services free- even if just for a limited period- would be potentially much more useful.

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sparklerach · 07/10/2011 21:44

I just noticed the forum has been added to the NBH senior website- apparently we have to register and request a password...A shame we can't view it without registering as that makes me slightly worried that they will clearly to be able to see which parents are making the fuss (you would have to give them your email address to get a password). What is the point of a forum if it can't be generally viewed anyway?
Hmm

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doesnotlivelocally · 06/10/2011 10:28

Mrs Rumpole, NBH is indeed boy heavy but I have found it, generally, a caring and nurturing school and my DC has been very happy there. I am sure all the girls at RSH will enjoy it (notwithstanding the upheaval of change). I do sympathise with the parents and girls who board, as the change will be very difficult for them.

NBH parents have not been told about any forum (is it only for RSH Parents?) so please do keep us informed. Ms. Ayre is an excellent head and very approachable, I am so glad she will remain in her post. I am sure you will be reassured by her manner and leadership.

Meterita, we too were only told the Friday before the start of term. It came as a shock to us too!

MrsRumpole · 05/10/2011 17:59

I imagine you are all aware there is a forum (at the insistence of Royal School parents) this will hopefully put NBH parents in the picture once it is up and running.
We have a meeting with Sir Christopher on 11th October, and I have an appointment to visit Alexandra Ayre to discuss the senior school. I have found Sir Christopher to be very responsive to our concerns, but, at the end of the day, I understand that it's all about making a profit. Am I right in thinking NBH is boy- heavy? Cognita will be able to correct that with the Royal girls........

meterita · 05/10/2011 15:10

My daughter attends the RS hampstead, and many of the parents feel really betrayed that the school has been handed over to Cognita group before being consulted with. I believe that NBH to be an excellent school, but that wasn't my first choice, I wanted an all girls school and local, hence my choice. I feel very sorry for the borders who reside there who will now be up heaved and sent else where, this was there temporary home and school. The trustees had no thought and consideration on how this may affect the parents and importanly the girls( we seem to forget how this effects them too) so we only found out by letter the Friday before the Monday we started the term!! And since many a meetings being held.. The next meeting we have is with Cognita next week.

doesnotlivelocally · 05/10/2011 12:45

Thank you for the up-date Mrs Rumpole. :) I would be grateful if you could keep me and any other NBH parents informed, as we have heard nothing.

NBH parents were due to be offered a tour of the RSH site during your half-term (week commencing 17th October) but it doesn't look like that will happen now.

I am particularly interested as DC and I may have to move closer to the school.

Good luck!

MrsRumpole · 05/10/2011 09:38

The way things stand now are: Royal Parents are still fighting to keep the school open in its present form. They have put proposals to Chris Woodhead about this, and we await their decision. I very much doubt whether Cognita will agree, as, in the words of our Headmistress:
"They want the site"
And that's the central issue. Grim as it may look from the outside, I totally agree with Lorraine's comments about the playground and the Food technology room is wonderful. It needs a lot of investment, though, as some of the areas are run down (thanks to the totally uninterested Trustees)
So, the parents lost the battle to run the school themselves, but now are putting forward a proposal to keep it in its current form, a lovely, inclusive, caring girls school, which they feel will flourish now the Trustees have gone. I believe that it is too late, and that the merger will go ahead as planned . I also feel that Sir Christopher and the Cognita group had no idea of the passion and commitment of the parents and the girls , and they MAY take the issues into account and the school COULD become something really special.......

doesnotlivelocally · 30/09/2011 14:45

I am a NBH parent and am, generally, happy and looking forward to the increased facilities the move will bring but we live over the other side of London so the commute for my DC will be more difficult. We signed up for a school in Camden, not Hampstead.

Are there any RSH parents out there? I read about RSH parents seeking to challenge the takeover in both the Local and National press. What if, anything, has happened about that? Has the sale to Cognita gone through?
We have heard nothing further.