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What is an appropriate punishment from school in this situation? Bit long - sorry!

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lilibet · 07/03/2011 14:17

Ds2 is 14, he is on the school rugby and football teams, winning prizes for both in the last school year. He is forcast an A in the subject at GCSE. He loves all things sport at achool and is very good at all apects of it. He is not* a model pupil, he in constanly in trouble for not having his shirt tucked in, top button undone and his homework is a bit hit and miss in some subjects, but he could be an awful lot worse IYSWIM.

Before half term in February he came across one of the PE teachers in the corridor and challenged his team selection for the football team. He was alone when he did this. Ds2?s argument was that there were boys who never went to training who automatically got a place whereas some boys turned up for training every week and didn?t even get on the bench. He had been picked for this match and had attended training. The teacher told him that this ?wasn?t five a side? and it was his team and up to him to make the selection. Ds2 described him at this point as ?angry?, the conversation continued, Ds2 admits that he had a tone in his voice and it ended with him saying that he no longer wanted to be on the team. What he was supposed to do if he wanted to quit the team was go to a meeting with the teacher and Head of PE and submit his resignation in writing, this meeting was set for the following day and he forgot to go ? I can believe this ? he forgets everything if it isn?t written down. He was then called to the Head of PE?s office and given his punishment.

In your opinion what would have been suitable?

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caughtinanet · 07/03/2011 14:44

OK, that's waaaaay too harsh, but you know that.

I'd skip the correspondence with the head of PE and go straight to the Head.

I wish my local state school had such high expectations of the pupils.

belledechocchipcookie · 07/03/2011 14:44

I'd go to the head, it's far too excessive and he's also in the teams to support the school, they also gain from this.

lilibet · 07/03/2011 14:42

Not a private school with high standards, ( I wish!)but a normal secondary school and no he isn't dyspraxic.

He was very rude yes, and I don't dispute that he deserved punishing.

He has been banned from all extra cirricular activities until September and can't even go and watch the teams play.

We weren't told of this happning until we got a bit suspicious of the contstant excuses as to why he hadn't been training. He didn't tellus as he thought we would be ashamed. We didn't even get a note in his homework diary.

Yes I am very ashamed that he was rude and disrespectful to a teacher, but I think, he was speaking up for others and also chose not to do it in front of mates/team/class.

I thnk detention/ short term ban would be appropriate (plus a bollocking at home!)

We are in 'correspondence' with the Head of PE and I'm wondering how far to take it.

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BellsaRinging · 07/03/2011 14:41

Yes, caughtinanet, but the team responsibility bit apparently doesn't extend to requiring the members of the team to turn up to training! Tbh I do think that the op's son has a bit of a point, although badly and rudely expressed. Since when are members of a team selected when they can't be bothered to turn up to train? And the meeting to resign also seems to be ott. However, it may have been used if he had turned up, to discuss issues around resignation, and to see if those issues could be resolved.
On the whole I think he should have been disciplined for the rudeness and for forgetting the appointment. Detentions would appear to be the way to go, or something else appropriate-helping out with practice for the younger boys, etc. But I would be wondering about the sports department and the messages it's sending out.

caughtinanet · 07/03/2011 14:35

I missed the bit about missing the meeting, that's pretty bad as well as presumablely two teachers wated their time waiting for him.

If the school checkts that buttons are done up a detention just isn't going to enough for them.

noblegiraffe - being on a team is voluntary but all members have a responsibilty to the team as a whole. A 14 year old on two school teams must be very good and its right that the school has high standards for team behaviour.

noblegiraffe · 07/03/2011 14:33

Hang on, what's the punishment for, missing the meeting, or questioning the team selection procedure?

Those who suggest that a student shouldn't dare question anything obviously haven't heard of the importance of Student Voice.

And putting kids on the team who can't be arsed to turn up to training over kids who do is a bit crap, to be honest.

PixieOnaLeaf · 07/03/2011 14:30

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noblegiraffe · 07/03/2011 14:26

Sounds like a load of bollocks to me. Being on a team is voluntary, no? Shouldn't take two minutes to quit.

Lunch detention for lack of organisation?

belledechocchipcookie · 07/03/2011 14:24

Well, he was very rude to the teacher. Questioning the teacher's decisions was not on. I'd say a detention would be suitable. Yous son did actually say he didn't want to be on the team so did technically resign.

Is he dyspraxic?

caughtinanet · 07/03/2011 14:24

Well as he doesn't want to do football anymore there's no point in a football related punishment so I guess they've maybe banned him from the rugby team.

TBH he sounds very disrepectful to the teacher however unreasonable his team selection was (and I can see exactly why he was annoyed at that).

It sounds like he's at a private school with very high standards so he must expect a severe punishment.

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