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Winchester college v canford?

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yotty · 10/01/2011 20:13

My DS1 is pretty bright but not a genius, not sporty, but loves drama. Can't decide whether he would be better off at Winchester, as he is a bit of a quirky character. Or go to canford and know that he would be in the top 30 percent of the year group, so could feel he could excel in something. Anybody got any thoughts/knowledge of these schools.

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hanselk · 12/01/2011 09:40

there is always the consideration that he will probably be stronger in one or more of arts, sciences or humanities than others so might be top of some sets and bottom of others which i cannot see being a problem.

i would put him down for winchester anyway and think of the registration fee spread over the years until he goes or does not go and so perhaps "losing" £50 per year over 4 years is easier to swallow for keeping the option of going open.

my friends' sons all seem to change in many different ways over the years between say 8 and 13 so there is no foolproof way of knowing!

yotty · 12/01/2011 09:25

My DH is inclined to agree with you Hanselk. He doesn't want to spend £30 grand a year on any old boarding school. He wants something special. That being said, I want DS to feel top of the tree in something. I think he has the intellect to get into Winchester but what I don't know is where he will be in the pecking order when he gets there. Of course, he is only in year 5 and every year he seems to do better at school, so it is difficult to tell at this stage where he will be intellectually by the time he is 13. He is a deep thinker, an avid reader and has a very enquiring mind. So maybe Winchester is the place for him.

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hanselk · 12/01/2011 09:01

Kings Canterbury is a good school.

i do think that if your son can get into somewhere like winchester or eton and you can afford it and they do not want co-ed then there is not a lot of point in not sending him.

the advantages from contacts, education etc are so much higher than most schools it makes a lot of sense. if he wanted co-ed then try westminster.

there are a lot of other good schools but it has always seemed to me that winchester and eton are like oxford and cambridge in that there are a lot of other very good universities but there is something extra that you get from them that is more than just the day to day education.

obviously this is just my opinion....

yotty · 12/01/2011 08:05

Was trying to narrow area to be near family in UK. But the other one I like the look of is The King's school Canterbury. Anyone got any thoughts on that one?

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freshmint · 11/01/2011 22:45

how can you suggest greshams to someone considering winchester?!?! ditto oun dle. unless you live in either norfolk or northants and don't want to travel far there is no reason to go to either!!

itsatiggerday · 11/01/2011 21:48

Can I ask why you've narrowed it down to these 2 already? Esp if you live out the cuontry and maybe geography is quite flexible? Would strongly suggest there are lots of other schools to consider in the same vein. Greshams are v good at the drama and theatre, as are Oundle, both sporty but with a wide variety of sports and prob slightly more academically inclined than Canford. If you do want south / southwest then Sherborne worth a look, and all boys but with a sister school so mixing opportunities. Or Radley, although prob quite sporty. Eton are always good for quirky - if you're happy to consider Winchester then you might manage to consider Eton without the widespread prejudice!

wishingforcrystalball · 11/01/2011 21:40

My post doesn't make sense - I'm tired - quirky and academically stuious aren't the same thing, but are often traits that are found together.

wishingforcrystalball · 11/01/2011 21:39

No - they have to be academically studious - the two aren't mutally exclusively but often are found together.

darleneconnor · 11/01/2011 21:31

does that mean that boys have to be quirky to suit Winchester?

wishingforcrystalball · 11/01/2011 20:53

Canford is your jack of all trades - if you have a child that can hold their own in the classroom academically, throws themselves into school life - sport, music, drama, and is an all-rounder then Canford is an excellent choice.

If you are academically gifted, question the world around you, as someone else mentioned, enjoy mental sparring, enjoy the company of like minded fellows but don't need to roll around in mud to do so, then Winchester is your school of choice.

Out of these 2 schools.

yotty · 11/01/2011 20:49

So are you saying that if he is quirky and not sporty then Canford is the wrong place?

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wishingforcrystalball · 11/01/2011 20:43

Agree with freshmint

Canford not at all the same sort of place and I would struggle to see any overlap at all between the type of child who would be happy at Canford and the type who is a natural wykehamist.

yotty · 11/01/2011 20:35

Let's look at it a different way. Would he survive at Canford as a small, non sporty boy?

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yotty · 11/01/2011 19:56

Freshmint, I agree 9 is young, but he is in year 5 and Winchester test in year 6, so I am afraid we have to have at least put his name down by the end of this academic year. The registration fee is about £200! I am far too tight to keep writing cheques for that kind of money until I am convinced it is the right place for him. He is at a non selective prep school and is generally in the top 3 or 4 in his year group of 46 kids. It's just hard to tell how brainy that is until you get into a bigger pier group. Also do not live in UK. I have visited several schools including Winchester and canford, but not really in a position to keep revisiting, so it's quite hard.

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freshmint · 11/01/2011 19:33

wykehamists are very intelligent, inquisitive, quirky and individualistic people. however you have to be sure he is bright enough. you don't want him to be seen as a thicko. having said that it is a brilliant place for boys who might just get beaten up for being a bit different in other places.

Canford not at all the same sort of place and I would struggle to see any overlap at all between the type of child who would be happy at Canford and the type who is a natural wykehamist.

Of course you have to look at both schools but if your ds is only 9 I'd say it was completely pointless doing that for at least another 18 months or more ...

Talkinpeace · 11/01/2011 19:26

A good point for Winchester - Kings, Westgate and Peter Symonds Sixth form are all (at top sets) academically on a par with Winchester and the kids all mix socially - usually on the Buttercross or in the Cathedral close in the summer!

yotty · 11/01/2011 16:40

Not too worried about being scruffy. As long as they know to smarten themselves up when it is important, that's fine by me and would probably be a great relief for DS who has no interest in being tidy.

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hanselk · 11/01/2011 15:04

probably not best for sporty boys which means that those who were not sporty at prep school can probably find things to their level and perhaps enjoy them more.

it is undeniably academic though.

darleneconnor · 11/01/2011 15:01

Sorry to slightly hijack but is the gist of this thread that Winchester is the place for exceptionally bright, very academic and also sporty boys?

hanselk · 11/01/2011 14:57

he will have to play winchester football though at least for first year which can appear slightly more grim than rugby! otherwise they seem rather useful at individual sports.

as i said earlier, try and go and see the schools and see what they feel like - for example canford eat in one dining hall for the whole school whilst winchester the boys eat in their own houses. you might prefer the large scale dining as an opportunity for greater mixing or prefer a smaller less intimidating approach.

he might just find his best friend is going to one particular school and that makes his mind up!

Talkinpeace · 11/01/2011 13:48

Winchester boys always look SO scruffy when they wander around.
Not a shirt tail tucked in between them most days.

yotty · 11/01/2011 12:41

Have meeting with his headmaster next week. He is so small that avoiding playing rugby will be a blessing in my opinion. Having said that, at the moment he quite likes rugby, but he is in the duffers group, so he doesn't get flattened that often. Probably because he rarely actually gets hold of the ball! Amazingly his PE teacher loves him because he has got a wacky sense of humour.

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lucysmum · 11/01/2011 12:19

what do his current school say ? I have friends who have been told their sons would not suit Winchester as even though they are bright they are not 'independent thinkers' (whatever that means...) and not quite right for Winchester. also Winchester doesn't play rugby (big deal for some boys!) Canford more real world I think than Winchester - still very elite, academic, traditional.

yotty · 11/01/2011 12:10

Re Bedales. Like the ethos of school, but worry there would not be enough really bright children to challenge him.

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yotty · 11/01/2011 12:08

Glad to hear they get some exposure to girls at Winchester. He does like expressing himself verbally! Actually he tends to seek out adult company to have what he calls a chat. This is generally quite a deep and meaningful conversation which could be about current affairs or this weeks question was 'why is it socially acceptable not to go to church on Sunday in this era while it was not 100 or more years ago?' He is 9 years old!

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