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Winchester college v canford?

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yotty · 10/01/2011 20:13

My DS1 is pretty bright but not a genius, not sporty, but loves drama. Can't decide whether he would be better off at Winchester, as he is a bit of a quirky character. Or go to canford and know that he would be in the top 30 percent of the year group, so could feel he could excel in something. Anybody got any thoughts/knowledge of these schools.

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propatria · 31/01/2012 12:02

Gove it a try..lol...

propatria · 31/01/2012 12:02

Thats interesting and makes perfect sense, thanks Scary,there are plenty of top tier schools I wouldnt touch with a barge pole but that doesnt mean I cant see they are top,just not right for my offspring.
What I really dont get are parents who make the big decision to go for a £30,000 school and then dont even consider the best,why would you spend that sort of money and not even try for the best money can buy,why settle for mediocrity,At least give one of the best schools a shot,if you dont get in you dont get in at least gove it a try.

scaryteacher · 31/01/2012 11:48

Nope, I wouldn't have put Wycombe Abbey; there are girls schools I would choose before that one. Depends also what you are looking for in a school. Can't say I would have considered Oundle either for ds.

Propatria: if we had been coming back to UK as well as ds, then yes, I would have considered Canford for him; but, he has been at an International school since Year 6 (when I foolishly took him away from Mount House), and I can't see him moving from a non-uniform, call teachers by their first names environment to a much more formal regime without a struggle. Had he been younger, then yes, I would have considered it, but as he's going for sixth form, then Symonds fits the bill perfectly. He will also have access to a wider gene pool than he does at present. We live in an ex-pat bubble, where there are some stonkingly well off families, and so he doesn't have experience of some of the kids I taught, where not everyone has two cars, and you have to make careful decisions about what you spend your money on. I hope that Symonds will open his eyes a bit (well, I know, it's Winchester), and get him used to living back in the UK. It'll be a bit more egalitarian than the school here which selects by parental/their employers ability to pick up the fees.

Colleger · 31/01/2012 11:33

Yes it was, but what were her reasons because the second school was so wildly different. If you are picking a school based on the child's needs/personality then why opt for a vastly different one as the second choice? That makes no sense to me.

Grovel, sorry if my questioning sounds aggressive, it's not the intention, I'm merely intrigued. :)

MrsJAlfredPrufrock · 31/01/2012 11:27

Colleger - but Eton was Grovel's first choice.

Colleger · 31/01/2012 11:15

Grovel, why not have Winchester as a second choice as far more similar to your first choice than Eton?

Colleger · 31/01/2012 11:13

But then why not go for a similar school to Eton as a second choice? Your reasons for Eton would have included non-campus, single sex, selective so opting for a similar type school would have been more obvious. I dislike campus schools, another reason for being very unsure about Radley, so I wouldn't be looking at Canford but may look at Sherborne.

I don't think it's wrong to admit that Eton is often chosen because it is Eton. I know so many parents who have done this, and many who say, "You don't turn down Eton." Let's face it, it's the most closed environment and the tours are awful so opting to send a child there is not an informed decision.

I prefer Westminster to Eton but DS refuses to go there, although I still have a couple of months to talk him into sitting the Challenge.

MrsJAlfredPrufrock · 31/01/2012 11:07

I'd never heard of Radley until 3 weeks ago.

MrsJAlfredPrufrock · 31/01/2012 11:06

I wouldn't put Winchester on the most well-known lists.

Eton
Harrow
Rugby
Charterhouse
CLC
Ampleforth if you're a Catholic

grovel · 31/01/2012 10:57

I was only suggesting that Milton Abbey be in the Top Ten. Stowe is, indeed, lovely. We're not Dorset-based but only 70 minutes from Wimborne.

Colleger, we were crippled by indecision. We decided to have 2 contrasting schools and delay making a choice until DS was 12. I suppose Eton was really our first choice but we wanted to be sure that DS would not just cope there but flourish.

propatria · 31/01/2012 10:47

Sorry ,Id give the lovely surroundings prize to Stowe...

Now Im intrigued whats lively about the Gordonstoun surroundings,could be a whole new category...

Grovel,are you Dorset based?

Colleger · 31/01/2012 10:37

Gordonstoun has to win for lively surroundings, and it's stonking yacht! Grin

Colleger · 31/01/2012 10:36

Can I ask why you would choose such a different choice as a second choice grovel? I would have thought if you wanted a school like Eton for a "fall back" then you wouldn't choose one that was so different - co-ed, although choices are limited for boys, but especially not campus. Or did you choose Eton because of its name even if you preferred co-ed, campus and not super-selective? Wink

propatria · 31/01/2012 10:35

Lovely surrondings,thats a good list.would put Milton on that list and top of the ferreting list.

grovel · 31/01/2012 10:29

Milton Abbey - top 10 for lovely surroundings?

Our DS went to Eton but Canford was our second choice. We thought it outstanding of its type (co-ed, campus, not super-selective).

propatria · 31/01/2012 10:11

Milton-should be on what list?

propatria · 31/01/2012 10:07

I think if you look at exam results,Oxbridge entries etc over a period of time youll see why Oundle was listed by colleger,it would be in my top tier anyway,academic or not,a top school for all rounders and top couple of choices if you want a mixed school,I know you have a soft spot for Canford Scary but its not really the equal of Oundle but to be fair Oundle does have the advantage of a 500 year head start...
Scary,if ds is returning to uk ,did you think about Canford or was it not practical?

grovel · 31/01/2012 10:01

Oundle? Streuth.

Milton Abbey should be on the list, surely?

Colleger · 31/01/2012 09:59

You wouldn't have put WycombeAbbey? Confused

As for academic, I suppose we could lump all London schools in together, except Westminster which is markedly higher, and then rank the other ones.

scaryteacher · 31/01/2012 09:54

I wouldn't have put Oundle or Wycombe Abbey in the most academic list I must admit, and I would have put Oundle on a par with Canford.

propatria · 31/01/2012 09:50

Sarah relax,chill a bit,if you remember it was you that brought up the subject of top tier schools by claiming Canford was one,it isnt,never will be,does that matter? No, if you are happy with it,thats fine but if you make silly claims for it then you must expect that claim to be challenged,
Canford is a perfectly fine local school,wouldnt be my first or indeed second choice if I lived in Dorset but its ok, ,youve seen the type of school that are top tier,do you still think Canford should be on that list?

MariaSarah · 31/01/2012 09:32

Hallelujah! I am so pleased Yotty that you are going to think things through properly for yourself and choose a school based on what you feel is best for your child, rather than any sort of top 10 style ranking.
I find Propatria's comments such as 'scrap Canford' rather ignorant and frankly downright rude, I'm afraid, knowing that there are others on this thread who have children at the school.
Good luck Yotty - hope it works out well for whatever you choose. Signing off now.

yotty · 30/01/2012 20:13

Agree with you Happygardening.
I have 2 thoughts on this subject. Firstly, being the alumni of such well known institutions can be a hindrance rather than a help. People you meet tend to put you in a box before they actually know anything about you.
Secondly, if each of these schools has about 120 pupils in each year group then each year about 1200 pupils enter these schools. I don't know how many 13 year olds there are in the country but there must be several 100000. So even if you take just the top 10% of that large cohort they can't all go to 10 schools. That leaves a high number to go to and excel at plenty of other schools, both private/public or state. that is why there is no such thing as 'top 10 schools', just the right school for your child.

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Colleger · 30/01/2012 20:02

It doesn't matter HG but someone asked so I obliged! Wink

peteneras · 30/01/2012 19:56

Peteneras will settle for just the very first name in your very first category. Grin

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