Government drawing up plans to help relocate the unemployed

So, we should have a wandering workforce going where the "market" decides is next right for exploitation. What about people's broader family and support networks? Community? Any sense of belonging somewhere? These financial crises are not created by ordinary people, they are caused by a bunch of coke fuelled pricks gambling on an unregulated stock market. Unemployment is an outcome of this irresponsible and unbridlled greed. We should be demanding an economic system which has a moral dimension instead of kow towing to the ludicrous suggestions of Ian Duncan Smith et al!

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Yep, we lived in Venezuela .

Also Singapore and the Hague.

My dad also went on his own for shorter periods to other places.

I know a few pple in the oil industry and am always about their fab relocations to Venezuela etc.

DH recently confessed to having being headhunted a few yrs ago for CIO of a v big company based in Barbados. He didn't mention it. Aaaargh

We had a ball being relocated, mumble!

Even my mother, especially because it was all to places where lots of hired help is the norm, too .

But seriously, her year in Dubai courtesy of Shell Oil wasn't exactly a hardship .

Expat, I think Get orf and I had wandered off on our own little digression there.

I agree with your post.

sorry, a job hunt at the other end.

'If you treat it as a bit of an adventure it can be a very enjoyable experience.

We were however fortunate to always have all expenses paid by dh's company, even down to new school uniforms, allowances for decoration etc.'

It's a not unpleasant experience when you have plenty of money to pay others to move your stuff and things like decoration allowance and new school uniforms.

We moved like that loads for my dad's job and I don't think it's really fair to compare such an experience to someone moving on a pittance with next to nothing and then a job at the other end.

Also, there's no guarantee of a home with this scheme. Just a jump to the top of the housing queue.

What do you do with all your stuff in the meantime?

You do realise that most council homes do not come with white goods, floor coverings, window covering, light fixtures. This one had not a single shelf in it.

Imagine how expensive all that is, particularly if you have no decoration allowance.

I mean, c'mon. That's just downright mean to compare moving with a huge relocation package for a great job with good remuneration to temporary accommodation/homeless b&b and FA not even a job yet.

I do, as well, Getorf, speaking as someone who's had to relocate many times with dh's job.

If you treat it as a bit of an adventure it can be a very enjoyable experience.

We were however fortunate to always have all expenses paid by dh's company, even down to new school uniforms, allowances for decoration etc.

I don't think it is a bad idea to suggest moving to get work.

I relocated purely for work reasons - I lived in an area with no industry and few jobs (north Devon). I had a job in Devon but was going nowehere fast and it was poorly paid (very low salary levels in that area).

I moved to Gloucestershire. It was a difficult undertaking - it was just me and DD and we didn't know anyone in Cheltenham. She had to move schools at 10. But I moved and added on thousands in salary, moved to a nice area, got dd in a good school. I was in private rented accommodation at the time, so had to save for the deposit, month's rent on new place, fund tenants fees and everything, plus pay to move. But it CAN be done, and sometimes it can be a good move.

Was good for me - my old place in Devon closed down last year, and I would have been one of many looking for a job in a place with no industry and where most of the work is seasonal.

I think movement should be encouraged.

I'm just wondering what kinds of vacancies they are.

And the GP surgeries, Riven, and other vital services.

Anything temp, seasonal or under 16 hours/week is going to mean at the least debt and at the worst rent arrears/baillifs for most currently on JSA.

Because, depending on the council, the benefits are completely stopped from the first day of work, even if the pay doesn't come until a month later, meaning the HB and CTB stops, too, but the months' rent and council tax are automatically due.

The working person then has to re-apply for these and wait until these are processed, which, again, depending on the council, could be months.

Tax credits also terminate and you have to re-apply.

Then, when your temp contract ends, you have to re-apply for everything all over again.

If you are fortunate enough to be a council/HA tenant, there might be some leeway (of course, you'll likely also have to take out loans for essentials like food, electriciy and transport until you get paid).

But if you are in privately rented housing, unless you have magically managed to save about a thousand if not more, you will be looking at eviction.

You may also be looking at bailiffs and council demands for the full fiscal year's council tax.

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What are the jobs in London that are available but people can't do then?

Thats because the types of jobs available in certain parts of London tend to require certain skill sets/qualifications which many of the people in places with the highest unemployment do not have.

So jobs are available it's just that it is the wrong type of jobs for the local population there.

Exactly, dino! Several of the most deprived districts in the UK, with the highest unemployment, are in London, a place with so-called plentiful work.

[waits for someone to trot out the 'That's because immigrants do it as British think they are too good for these types of jobs' bollocks again]

Over large enough areas you can hopefully get sufficent diversity and opportunity to do something. Cities and large towns have the depth of population and the breadth of skills to attract investment. But that isn't going to save all the communities, even where you do get regeneration.

If we didn't have the welfare state, a lot of these places would already have gone. But their going would have been pretty brutal. It's the law of unintended consequences - our laudable desire to minimise acute pain extends the chronic pain.