OMG!

no, forget that

expat, the NI hike is only for people on 40% tax and up, not basic-rate taxpayers.

"No one told you" the pill could be affected by a stomach upset? It's in the leaflet in every packet.

I got the impression they don't give a shit about low-earners or lower-middle earners and the poor who are non-working, nanny.

I mean, a VAT and NI hike hits everyone, and everyone who is working (for the NI bit), but it hits those worst off the most.

Even poor pensioners have to buy stuff and most of them can't work.

No one ever pillories them, though a good many of them are widows who stayed at home and didn't work outside the home (I realise it wasn't possible for many women to work back in the day).

Well yes nanny I think thats the aim but we'd be better off if we were to prroduce anotherr!

Which we won't, but silly anyway.

I got the impression that overall the government is trying to stop people having more children than they can reasonably afford. What do other people think? I kind of agree with it, I would love another baby but have the chance to go back to work and get off benefits so am going to take it. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to be able to have a second in a few years.

And oh goodness yes look at the LD voters

or worse, memebrs like me

LL not everyone had a nurturing home life, I remember Thatcher (heck I was 24 when the tories went) and also remember being whacked around the head by a vacuum cleaner. Sadly.

Your childhood sounds awful but not as bad doesn't mean great, undfortunately.

LL, quit trying to blame being silly enough to vote Tory when you are poor on anything but buying their complete con job.

You're 28 and you sound very articulate and write like someone who is intelligent and educated.

You fell for their con and lies.

It happened to plenty of folks, look at LibDem voters.

(and no the fear won't go LOL- LEA have deferred decision for SNU until November, argh, and it's now - wait for it- 30 times over subscribed. Decision will be amde on Ed Psych assessment. our area ahs no Ed PSych (school serves several areas). ARGGGGGHGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!)

St you are right, presumed but they wouldn;'t have done it as aprt of a huge budget in a recession if they were not looking to save cash.

but don't look at them for too long, they are like the Gorgon, if you gaze at them for too long, you are turned to stone, and indeed many of them do appear stoned.

Loudlass, good luck to you and your family. I hope it won't be as bad as it now seems. Ignore all the cruel sniping about your family. We need many more children since our birth rate is declining, and they will all help us when we are older. I am very pleased to help them through taxes now.

Also, well done for voting Tory, you did the right thing and I think over time that will become clearer. If ever you doubt how you voted over the coming years, just periodically glance at the grisly gargoyles on the opposition bench at PMQ.

You shouldn't have voted Tory.

Londonone you keep asking where the money is coming from to fund ex number of children that people who cannot afford them have. It's coming out of taxes that we pay and I for one am very happy about this. I live in a society that doesn't starve children who are born to parents that cannot afford them. At least I have lived in this type of society so far.

Sancti - you have said 'presumed' slashes; they may just be tightening up on the DLA rules, and is that a bad thing if people are getting it that shouldn't?

Fear is something no political party can do anything about. I was scared yesterday, I thought we'd be looking at a 10-15% pay cut for those in the public sector; I am worried about dh's job security after the Defence Review has taken place, and for the outcome of the public sector pension review as he is within 4 years of having to leave the RN and so there is no now time to make alternative plans to fund retirement. However, those are things I can do nothing about except hope for the best and plan for the worst. I was frankly terrified under Labour because it was evident where all this was going.

I don't think they do want to make life difficult for the genuinely vulnerable. Presumably, if all carries on as before for you, and you keep the DLA and the expanded SN statement, then your fear goes away.

Joni

Am not complaining; happy with this house.

Also, since child was born DH has been made redundant (am a carer with 2 sn kids, no kids ever conceived unaffordably) so planned move to a larger home scrapped.

Them's the dynamics sadly.

And to reiterate: not complaining. IN fact SSD wanted to push for a bigger house but ds4 was born here, where I am sitting now, so am rather attached.

FWIW, I agree with you regarding the bedroom situation.

The neighbour situation, however, totally sucks.

Oh yes, expat. Apologies. Just re-read your post. Perhaps I'm feeling a bit paranoid today

I don't know the dynamics of the family Sancti, but it just seems odd to have another child then complain there's nowhere for it to sleep.

FWIW I do sympathise with the OP but surely she must realise having got into this situation of her own free will she can't really complain, blame the council for it etc.

Joni, why on Earth did you a) assume it was directed to you when there were quotation marks quoting another person's post b) get all narky after making such an assumption?

If that was directed at me expat, I was responding to a complaint the OP made, which when I last checked, was pretty much the point of this forum.

joni I think the concern was that if baby due is same gender then there will 2 kids in box bedrroom, no?

I slept in a boxroom; ds1 does; no concern.

Far more worried about ds2 who is NT-ish (low level issues, you ahve to be marked to count as SN in my household ) who ahs to sahre with ASD ds3 (not an ewasy share; ds3 wakes screaming and literall tips the bedroom wardrobe upside down and scatters every night) and potentially ds4 also.

I don't want a bigger house- this is a private rent but as long s we can I want to stay here- but ds1 is the lucky one for sure.

'expatinscotland, some champagne socialist somewhere has misled you into believing this caricature of the Tories.'

How very patronising of you, claig, to assume that people who don't agree with you are misled and ignorant.

But how unsurprising as well.

expatinscotland, some champagne socialist somewhere has misled you into believing this caricature of the Tories. John Major was working class, his father was a trapeze artist, he left school at 16 and was turned down for a job as a bus conductor. The Tories made him Prime Minister. Norman Tebbitt was working class as also was the challenger for leadership of the Tory party, David Davis. He was brought up by a single mum on a working class council estate.

Michael Mackintosh Foot came from a posh Liberal background and became Labour leader.
Anthony Charles Lynton Blair was posh and went to the Eton of the North, Fettes. Anthony Neil Wedgwood Benn was posh and was formerly the 2nd Viscount Stansgate. Harriet Harman was posh and went to St. Paul's School. The list goes on and on. Just this week, another champagne socialist, Diane Abbott, justified her decision to send her son to a private school, by saying

"That's what some of my colleagues on the Left would never understand. In the end you're coming from a culture where whatever you can do for your children you do."

The left don't understand her, but the rest of us do, just another champagne socialist who is alright Jack.