OMG!

would loudlass like to talk to ITV News about housing benefit. my number os 07733368406

Leave loudlass alone - her DP is working, contributing to society and paying tax so get off your fucking high horses those of you being so high and mighty and just pray your lives never change for the worst.

HEAR HEAR

I double that. I can't believe the small petty mindedness of some of the posters here. OMG, nest there will be talk of compulsory sterilisations, and leaving extra children in orphanages. Why not euthanase all the SN children too.

I find the idea of forcing women to abort due to financial situations abhorant. To many of us, it is tantamount to murder. IT IS NOT A LIFESTYLE CHOICE! Sorry to those who may feel it is a woman's right. (Note-a woman's right, not obligation!)

Don't leave Sancti! (have sent you friends request on FB btw, there was nowhere to leave a message)

OMFG The comments on here are outrageous. OP - sorry you are being dealt such a shitty hand. londonone I assume you voted Tory - hope you're happy. OP - voting tory was very foolish but hopefully you will never make that mistake again.

Agree with others - don't leave MN - the SN boards (which have inexplicibly disappeared from my active convos) need you.

SanctiMoanyArse, don't leave MN. We need more common sense views on MN, not less. I've always enjoyed reading your views, and MN will be a worse place if they are no longer present.

oh dear its gone a bit pete tong hasnt it!!!!

LL

I have just elft MN after the budget thread so just stopping by to wish you luck.

Enjoy your baby. they are great.

And if campaigning can chage DLA I will try, I promise.

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Loudlass, I think you have been talked to in a disgusting manner on this thread. Some really low remarks. Hope those posters are proud of themselves for coming accross as nasty, scummy people.

Just dont ever vote Tory again!

Bloody hell, there are some nasty people on this thread. Listen to yourselves. Do you speak to people like that in RL? Horrible.

I think Loudlass is just venting some steam. No harm in that.

Lots of people have posted informed comment on your predicament (which you constantly blame on anything else but yourself, and let's face it you do have some part in it) and with this in mind, I think I might be subscribing to the 'shut the fuck up' school of psychology here OP but really, even faced with the facts you bleat on and on.

You voted for them and now you have them, so stop being a whiney bitch and suck it up.

OP you seem to have ignored the few intelligent posts that outline the changes and how it seems you would actually be better off.

Also you state why could they not raise tax for those who earn over £100,00 to 50%? THEY HAVE.

I think from the tone of your posts you have a real sense of entitlement which is depressingly common. YOU and your DP are reponsible for your children. Having 4 children is something only the very rich or the very poor comtemplate.

Especially with all your health problems and chidren's health problems, what were you thinking?

I've sat through endless debates on this at Uni and you know what, there is no answer (that happens a lot LOL- refers to my post on international aid therad as well )

It may be that humanity has no effect on global warming and the guy who solves any resource issues is due to be sixth kid of someone.... or that we will run out and all die.

On a personal level, should I die tomorrow completeing my family left me personally fulfilled mfamily wise and I woudl not regret it for a second.

Prety muche verything I do ahs soemone elses benefit on teh end of it: am having to reel in teh SEN advice I give as the pot shrinks on DH's request, spent time nursing, guiding, charity sector....... but you have to do the things to make yourself happy too. DFor some that's big holidays with carbon costs and otehrs jumping out of ;alnes at the cost to the NHS.... for me it was my family, and as it happens ds4 seems (fingers tightly crossed) the only totally NT one so there may even be a societal benefit in that he may choose to help ds1 / ds3, and pay tax towards ds3's care. It aslo emans I am experienceing a worry free toddlerfhood for the first time and whilst that's not a right, neither is it much to ask tbh.

TBH the whole birthrate thing is a bit of a red herring as people do not have children out of an altruistic desire to support society, they have them because they want to for themselves.

I don't believe the doom mongers, the global warmers, the death and destruction peddlers. In Ancient Roman times they had a few who said that there was impending doom and it didn't happen. Then Malthus spouted the same lies and the ecologists and greens are inheritors of that tradition, many of these movements founded by the elite from Eton. Nature has a way of coping and providing its own solutions. The Kissingers et al. want to control nature, they want to decide who is overpopulated. They think they are worth more than us, they describe us as feckless scroungers. Don't believe them.

There's something riven always says on here that I always remember (and am roughly paraphrasing):

if we want world population to fall we should enable the education of the worlds women, that is what limits births, not fairly random policies in tiny countries like ours.

I though birthrate in UK was dropping?

I am trying to change the system londonone, just volunteered to help NAS campaign on this, but if we just shut up and campaugn quietly in teh background nothing will happen and possibly even mroe damaging the disabeld and carers will take ever bigger hits becuase the majority of people can close their eyes and think of it as soemthing that happens to otehr people.

fact: I did not ask for the boys to become disabled but cutting the money off won't mean a cure, just poverty at a depth I cannot quiite comprehend- certainly homeslessness to start with, and a move away from our community. That's something I dread and will shout about very loudly indeed.

claig - we are a small nation that is densely populated the population cannot continue to grow larger and larger. Or do you foresee the world population simply continuing to grow forever.

londonone, we are a society and we need the next generation to look after the current generation. There is a lot of propaganda about overpopulation in our country. It is elites who spread this myth, the same people who introduced the census to keep track of what they thought were the feckless masses who were increasing in number and might threaten the resources of the elite.

there is no such thing as "governments" abouteve there is only money that people earn and/or generate and then pay in tax. The "government" has no funds it is simply the money of the people.

Of course everyone is entitled to have children. It is my view that eveyone isn't entitled to have someone else pay for them Have as many kids as you like just don't expect the state to pay for them.