How do we as a country eliminate 'benefit culture'?

My dad grew up sharing a bedroom with 3 siblings.

My grandfather, yep, 17 children and two bed house.

No alcoholism or drugs or that.

All of them finished school. None of them lived like that again.

"actually some people are worth more than £500K to the economy"

"Move to Monaco."

How's that going to help the economy Coolfonz?

haha - I was thining hmmm 32 bedroom house doesn't sound that bad

32

FFS Peachy! learn to type

3

Best thing was years later when I was asked to countersign mum of 2's application for a move to a bigger house as she said it was too tiny

I had to sign but she rightlky didn;t stand a chance in hell

generally wrt to lareger houses theya re reserved for special cases- we ahd a family with 5 kids in a 3 bed house after being upgarded from 2. However sopcial worker tells us they would only allow us a four bed council house (not that we want one and we are quite happy in a 3 bed house) as technically ds4 shouldn't be in our room as he is now, and ds1 and ds3 need separate rooms due to their asd anyway (DS2 and ds4 can of course share)

It might make thinsg easier I guess but heck, think of the vaccuming

a 32 bed house is that a typo???

Oh and your sic cousins have nowt on my lot: Dad is 15/16 in a 32 bed house where grandparents had a room to tehmselves.

Shift sleeping and multiple in each bed.

niiiice.

Did it affect them?

Of course it bloody did; several are / died through alcoholism, Dad was the only one accepted to grammar (and Nan said no as the otehrs hadn't gone).... right rabble they were

Lenin whillst i would nto advocate it generally, Dh is on an 18 month waiitng list (you'd think the benfit claiming, genetic syndrome bearing proles would get bumped up wouldn't you? ) for a vasectomy so perhaps he can be sterilisation tester number one?

I would not give any more money to people who have more kids after they have started claiming benefits - we as a country cannot afford to pay for people to have kids when they are not working.

This would then clear up the problem of overcrowding in many cities as someone who is given a 2 bed flat to house them and their spouse and 1 or 2 kids wouldn;t then need to move to a bigger house after having more kids.

Photographic tocc, makes me look a stalker but damn I am good at exams! I;ve even been known to recite an enire half of a west end show two years after seeing it (when I was in my teens)

Sancti - yes that was me - it's over 3yrs since I left that job (you have a good memory). Was hell on earth..........and certainly didn't help our relationship.

Of course I am Riven

Tocc I remember all your posts from mn old when you were working shifts around your DH as well (that was you I remember, wasn't it?)

You shirker you.

Ultimately, I worked as long as i copuld and paid into NI in case this happened. I wish it hadn't, but I refuse to feel guilty: I habve done nothing to be ashamed of. I care for my kids, dh works ridiculous hours trying to get us back on track- in fact, not so much not ashamed of as I feel really proud that we are trying as ahrd as we are; that Dh works most days from 7am until 11pm; that we have maintained our marriage agionst odds 9something like an 80% break up rate in famillies with SN- that's help us get sorted wouldn't it?)

There's no fault here!. Even as a carer I have been studying with the aim of self employment except funds for tuition ran out. I don't aim to never work again but realistically it will be at cost to the state for direct payments (still a few eyars off for us according to SW) for specialist childcare.

would it be so great if we could predicate every possible worst scenario in life

(and yes that would be a bad thing, for all the pensioners for a start..... and yes of course people should try to save but right now there arer many like my parents who did and suffered collapsed or otherwise* pension funds so are not in anyw way guilty)

*Their employer was solfd tyo an Amercian company who then treated, quite legally, the funds as assets to clear debts arsing I undersytand from asbestos claims in the US.

Of course, my parents should ahve seen that coming yes? The worst thing was the pensions weren't even with the same company: it happened twice over.

oi Riven - you talking about me

single mum - tick
on benefits - tick
in 30's - tick
planned/had children with man who was working - tick

Really?

Thing is, with what happened to us, one child would have cut us off: actually it is indeed ds1 and his SN (not diagnosed until he was 6) that did it for me working.

DS3 has SN also but I have a CM who would take him happily- ds1 is another kettle of fish sadly.

So, nobody should have kids unless they can cope if their child becomes disabled and their husband simultaneously is made redundant which is what happened to us?

birthrate of 3 per annum then.

"actually some people are worth more than £500K to the economy"

Move to Monaco.