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Lefties 9: This will succeed through its success

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taffetacat · 14/05/2010 20:21

Is everyone on Twitter now?

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ImSoNotTelling · 21/05/2010 09:53

Is there a thread about the rape thing in the feministy area. If not I will start one

Eleison · 21/05/2010 09:31

currect current

Eleison · 21/05/2010 09:30

The only possible good thing about the rape thing might be that a currect (mis)perception that things have swung too far in favour of the complainant is one of the elements hamstringing prosecutions. This might make it easier for the prosecution to marshall a proper hearing for its case.

But it is a shit development overall, I imagine.

Eleison · 21/05/2010 09:28

Don't love Shirley Williams too much. She is wonderful in many ways, but she did kneecap the Labour Party by splitting its right wing off into the SDP, one-time haunt of Adonis and an outrider of New Labour.

BecauseImWorthIt · 21/05/2010 09:26

I really, really don't get that rape thing. Why have they done it? I have skim read the paper this morning (before DH took it to work with him) but still couldn't understand what the point of it is. It sounds such a retrograde step.

Bucharest · 21/05/2010 08:32

Just been catching up and nodding in agreement with you all.

That whole surestart etc aimed at the people who most need it was what caused ructions when TB first became leader, with the more socialisty types (Prezza) spitting his buns out over the very idea....(can you tell I'm reading Campbell's diaries, and fancying him quite a lot )

God, I love Shirley Williams. For so many things. That's it isn't it? All those slightly crumpled, but real politicians, where have they gone? We seem to have some kind of cloning factory which mass produces tall, dark haired, slim, shiny-faced clever but ultimately charmless men.

Has Jon Cruddas definitely said no? (although I think we also need to find some oliticians without silly names for HIGNFY et al to get their claws into) (not that the poor man's name should hold it against him, but y'know....)

longfingernailspaintedblue · 21/05/2010 02:06

Prolesworth

You will be pleased to know that Boris Johnson has fulfilled his manifesto commitment on rape crisis centres (and has consequently done way more for victims than Red Ken ever did).

www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23812971-mayors-pound-375000-for-new-rape-centre.do

This, amongst his many other towering achievements, such as dismantling Labour's PFI disaster on the Tube, so many more transport police, and best of all, keeping council tax low. Boris is a brilliant Mayor. I trust you will be voting gleefully for his re-election.

Prolesworth · 21/05/2010 00:53

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onebatmother · 21/05/2010 00:09

the rape thing is kinda getting me down.

Ewe · 20/05/2010 23:07

Caroline Flint is awful, May not much better.

Heathcliffscathy · 20/05/2010 21:45

yup and was great. and endearing at the end when she kind of blushed and told jezza that she didn't think she should tell him who her favourite labour leader candidate was.

she's fabulous.

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Heathcliffscathy · 20/05/2010 21:32

where the fuck is shirley williams and women politicians of her ilk when you need them eh?

Heathcliffscathy · 20/05/2010 21:32

i really really don't like caroline flint at all. she came across as truly utterly thick last time she was on QT...

Ewe · 20/05/2010 20:52

Interesting link onebat, only skimmed but am I right in thinking they're going to refocus SureStart on "people who need it most"?

I think that will be a real shame, specifically if means testing, higher earners are just as likely to need community support even if they don't need the financial elements.

Will have a proper read of all the stuff after supper. Theresa May, Caroline Flint and Ming Campbell on QT tonight!

auberginesrus · 20/05/2010 18:24

I've heard they're abolishing the right to free garlic dough balls for those earning over £24K

Eleison · 20/05/2010 18:09

If that doesn't include a baminoccino, it's a sell out.

onebatmother · 20/05/2010 18:04

Pizza Express vouchers to compensate the impoverished middle classes for tax on CB and no SureStart?

Eleison · 20/05/2010 17:46

Ah. I thought it was for real. I thought it was some kind of bizarre public--private initiative. Or like Tesco vouchers for asylum seakers.

onebatmother · 20/05/2010 17:20

Twattage.
Hold on.
Ah, here we are.

Heathcliffscathy · 20/05/2010 17:09
Grin
Ewe · 20/05/2010 17:02

A pizza express voucher I was just looking at the very same, I think it's a great policy!

onebatmother · 20/05/2010 16:59

Has anyone seen this on coalition's surestart plans ?

Heathcliffscathy · 20/05/2010 16:41

yeah but she's a bit annoying even so

Prolesworth · 20/05/2010 15:21

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