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Where are all the women in the cabinet?

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fruitstick · 12/05/2010 10:40

I'll try again with a completed thread title this time!

Given that this was supposed to be the Mumsnet election, is there any hope that there might be one, just one woman in the cabinet?

Although Samantha Cameron looked lovely in her maternity wear and heels, I was hoping for slightly more representation than that.

Despite Labour's faults, at least they had women in important and influential positions, not just window dressing.

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snowlady · 12/05/2010 14:29

Maybe some labour supporters could swell the ranks of the greens.

anastaisia · 12/05/2010 14:23

I've been trying to convince Green Party supporters that appealing for Lib Dem members to come join them is not the way to show the country that PR will work here and that offering the coalition their support would be far better.

loonyrationalist · 12/05/2010 14:18

Conservative/Lib Dems have 55 women or 15% female MP's. Purely on a statistical basis this means that there should be at least 3 in the cabinet. The PM should increase this number as at present only positive discrimination ensures fair representation.

Did David Cameron really promise a third of the cabinet would be female when on the campaign trail? here

snowlady · 12/05/2010 14:16

I have also been thinking it would be fun to include Caroline Lucas too to show parties can work together. Whilst the green tax policies would not work for tories lots of the green economy ideas could be used. Maybe it would be too risky at this stage with the far right tories still trying to get used to being nice to the lib dems and vice versa.

I wish Sarah Teather was there somewhere. She is very bright and quite nice too from what one sees on TV.

Granny23 · 12/05/2010 14:10

It is a complicated issue as to why there are so few women in politics and even fewer rise to ministerial positions. One of many factors is the ludicrous working hours, which are in no way family friendly. Interesting to note that in the Scottish Parliament - which mainly works 9 to 5 - and is within one hours travel for most MSPs we have more females in positions of power

1 party leader, 2 deputy party leaders
5 cabinet members - Culture and external affairs, Health & Welfare, Environment, Public Health & Sport and Lord Advocate.

I would not suggest that Scottish women in politics are in any way superior to their, rest of UK, counterparts, therefore it would appear that the family friendly working practises do contribute to enabling more women to commit themselves.

Perhaps we, as feminists, should be directing our energies at this time, when parliamentary reform is on the agenda, to promoting sensible working hours/practices which would allow more family orientated women (and men) to enter the political sphere.

HerHonesty · 12/05/2010 14:08

oh and on her "equality" record, here we go.

analysis by PinkNews.co.uk reveals that Mrs May's has voted consistently against gay and transgendered rights.

Mrs May's voting record on LGBT rights is mixed.

In 1998 she voted against equalising the age of consent and in 2000, she voted against the repeal of section 28, legislation that banned the 'promotion' of homosexuality by local government and schools.

In 2001 and 2002 she voted against gay couples jointly adopting children.

In 2004, like much of the Conservative front bench, Mrs May did vote in favour of civil partnerships.

But in the same year, Mrs May didn't attend Parliament for any of the four votes that led to the Gender Recognition Act.

In 2008 she voted in favour of a defeated bill which said that IVF rights should require a male role model- effectively discriminating against lesbian fertility rights.

HerHonesty · 12/05/2010 14:05

are we surprised though?

loonyrationalist · 12/05/2010 14:03

It is a disgrace, 1 woman so far - words truly fail me

MintHumbug · 12/05/2010 13:47

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toccatanfudge · 12/05/2010 13:45

she's already complained about the "shoes" thing

squeaver · 12/05/2010 13:39

Thanks OJo

OrdinaryJo · 12/05/2010 13:37

Sorry to crash your thread but already the BBC have commented on 'Theresa May's love of shoes' or some such nonsense. Maybe when the media can talk about the new holder of one of the most senior positions in British politics without mentioning her dress sense, we'll have fair representation in Cabinet???

GRRRRRRR!

abgirl · 12/05/2010 13:32

Sorry have a professional bias against someone who will introduce more change in education, just think there's been enough and we need some consolidation before introducing more. (am not a teacher but do work in education) TBH haven't read the webchat yet so will go off and do that now...

CaveMum · 12/05/2010 13:31

Now I know the mere mention of her name drums up strong feeling but Thatcher anyone?! You can't claim the Tories are biased against women when they have had the only female Prime Minister!
I know this fact sticks in many lefties throats, particularly after Labour tried to leave her off a list of significant women in the 20th Century!

squeaver · 12/05/2010 13:27

Oh I thought people liked Govey now after his webchat on here.

abgirl · 12/05/2010 13:20

Ho hum, Michael Gove has education. Doesn't bode well in light of his rather random pronoucements during the campaign...

SkaterGrrrrl · 12/05/2010 13:05

Great - the only woman in the cabinet is an authoritarian.

BettyButterknife · 12/05/2010 13:04

Interesting pre-election Guardian article about exactly this topic:
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/may/08/catherine-bennett-women-politics

KerryMumbles · 12/05/2010 13:03

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squeaver · 12/05/2010 13:03

AMaggie - universal suffrage in 1928, passed by the Conservative govt under Stanley Baldwin.

Sunshinetoast · 12/05/2010 13:03

I didn't say she'd be a staunch supporter of equality. Personally I disagree with many of her policies. My sort of feminism is not hers. However if we have to have a Tory government then I think it should include women too. So I'm pleased to see she is there.

fruitstick · 12/05/2010 13:02

Auntie Maggie I think it was actually a Liberal Conservative Coalition

Lloyd George - 1918.

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HerBeatitude · 12/05/2010 13:00

"Personally I'd rather someone was picked for the Cabinet based on their ability, not their sex."

I agree. Which is why it's such a shame that most top jobs are occupied by people who have been picked for their sex. (IE they're male. They get privileges for simply having a penis from the nursery through school, university and the workplace, that women don't get. No one seems to worry that they're keeping more competent people who haven't been given their privileges, out of a job.)

VicToryA · 12/05/2010 12:56

GetOrf: !

Strix · 12/05/2010 12:55

I am a staunch supporter women's equality rights, and I am a staunch csupporter of the Conservatives. The two are perfectly compatible.