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Do the left hate the right more than the right hate the left?

159 replies

Eve · 11/05/2010 20:52

Comment I came across..on twitter I think somewhere.

I thought there was a large element of truth in it?

Views?

OP posts:
claig · 12/05/2010 11:38

I might have to reconsider my choice of the Daily Mail in light of so many contrary opinions, but I'm not sure I'm prepared to quite become a progressive yet.

We saw the progressives last night out on the streets, like a gaggle of geese and ganders, booing, jeering, hissing, growling, grunting, it wasn't a pleasant sight, all they seemed to do was whine and wail, oh for the comfort of a biccy, a cup of tea and a copy of the Mail, maybe they could start by cooling some of those aggressives off in jail.

ZephirineDrouhin · 12/05/2010 11:37

In fact scratch my first post. We are pretty much saturated with right-wing venom.

ZephirineDrouhin · 12/05/2010 11:32

That is certainly true AndieWalsh. Has been pretty shocking during this election.

AndieWalsh · 12/05/2010 11:29

The Right wing press is viciously hateful.

VicToryA · 12/05/2010 11:23

LOL, Mistletoe. Got it in one re. fruit shoooots!

ZephirineDrouhin · 12/05/2010 11:20

People generally hate when they are under attack and faced with a threat to their existence. The Right is obviously not facing anything like this at the moment so has little reason for hatred. It would be surprising to say the least if those on the right were spewing venom in the midst of their rise to power.

mistletoekisses · 12/05/2010 11:11

Not sure about the level of hatred and who 'hates' more than the other. But I would definitely say that there has been a lot of 'Tory bashing' on MN. I havent seen anywhere near the same level of 'Labour bashing' at all. But then I think the majority of mnetters are Labour supporters..either that or there a lot of closet Tories...

I think admitting you vote Tory is akin to admitting you feed your child fruit shoots...bound to result in you being shot to pieces...

Cartoose · 12/05/2010 11:00

Sorry Claig, the DM really is rubbish.

Sit on it Fonz

ooojimaflip · 12/05/2010 10:59

People don't believe in democracy - they believe in getting their own way - democracy just tries to stop people getting to 'fisty' about it ;)

NetworkGuy · 12/05/2010 10:58

"or the left express it more loudly perhaps"

I just heard some commentator on radio suggesting that when we get to the next election Labour will claim the Lib Dems are Conservatives in disguise.

We will just have to wait to see how 'diluted' some Conservative policies will be, and whether the Lib Dems have real influence and do force compromises.

No doubt there will be plenty who are unhappy, but at this stage I'm going to just disappear off the Politics section, and let the dust settle as there's got to be a few weeks before we can really judge how well / badly this result is.

UnquietDad · 12/05/2010 10:56

There's equal blind hate and tribalism on both sides. Some of the comments from my very tribalist Facebook friends today are wearisome. They claim to be objecting to the idea of coalition, but they are secretly just pissed-off that the Lib Dems went the "wrong" way.

FGS, you've had 13 years. And before that, the other lot had 18 years. As I was saying to them in 1997.

Sometimes, the government changes. That's democracy. What do people want - one party staying in power in perpetuity? Er, well, you can have that, although I think you'll find that's called dictatorship.

FairyMum · 12/05/2010 10:55

The DM is the most hateful I can think of (and especially the reader comments section) and they are not exactly on the left.

Mum2Luke · 12/05/2010 10:54

I'm glad that Labour is out, when GB was Chancellor he overspent and now look at the mess that the Tories/Libdems are going to have to pick up. I am not sure about the coalition but we've got it so let us see

For those who are moaning, Tax credits are paid from borrowing money, its like having a credit card, you can't keep spending and spending, you have to pay it back sometime.

The EMA - that definately needs to go, I have a 17 year old not eligible because her Dad earns 'just over the limit' yet he is paying 40% tax. It causes a lot of ill-feeling with the ones who do and ones who don't get it. I feel it is a bribe to get the numbers down.

The child trust fund - again not everyone gets that, my youngest was born in March 2002 so he does not qualify, as do many others.

To keep harping on about Cameron being a 'toff' is getting boring, what about Tony Blair and quite a few others in the Labour party who pay for their child to be privately educated? What is so wrong with wanting the best for your child anyway? I'm sure many people would like a decent education for their children but haven't had one due to a certain Ed Balls(-up). Youngsters are leaving school to go to senior school not being able to read or write. Not everyone has parents who help them with homework etc.

Good luck to the present Government - you are going to need it!

slug · 12/05/2010 10:50

at the thought of the Daily (Hate) Maiol as being the arbiter of truth.

The reason I don't read the DM (apart from it's scaremongering woman hating stance) is that it is written for a reading age of 7. As an slightly more educated person, I prefer my media to be slightly better written, not insult it's reader's intelligence and to present more than one side of an argument. Granted, that means going to more than one source but hey, not having to move my lips when I read makes it a lot faster.

Callisto · 12/05/2010 10:41

CoolFonz - you're taking the piss right? Because if you're serious your views on a vast swathe of the population are far more bigoted than anyone on the right, with the possible exception of Nick Griffiths.

VicToryA · 12/05/2010 10:28

I don't know generally about the level of hatred re. right/left. However, I do know that I have had vile things said about me on MN because I am a Tory, and I wouldn't dream of saying the same to Labourites. I don't think I'd think it, either. I'd think they were misguided, but no more than that.

When it comes to lefty politicians, though, I do feel like spouting bile. But as a Tory I am of course generally too polite to do so.

skihorse · 12/05/2010 09:55

Well said oojimaflip.

Now where did I put my old & infirm? I was assured they'd be collected today.

ooojimaflip · 12/05/2010 09:46

Claig - I'm just looking forward to when you finish yours off with the pesky motive ;)

ooojimaflip · 12/05/2010 09:45

Coolfonz - You are lumping together a lot of unpleasent qualities that some people on the right have some of which are shared by some people on the left.

Homophobia and racism are shared amongst supporters of all parties. Unbiased news is in the eye of the beholder. Right wing does not mean religous fundamentalist.

Lets criticise people for views they actually hold rather than views that some people they agree with on some things hold.

claig · 12/05/2010 09:45

well carry on reading the Guardian then, you'll get your fill there

ooojimaflip · 12/05/2010 09:41

Claig - No, I just enjoy fairy stories ;)

Coolfonz · 12/05/2010 09:36

the right hate the poor.

gays.

the blacks.

left wing jews (after all we did for them!)

collective action.

unbiased news.

anything to the left of them even if those people are also right wing. Eg: Labour...

but they lurrrrrrv themselves, piety infects them. like their compadres the Mullahs in Iran, the Saudi royal family, the Bush klan..."when you realise you are ordained by God there is nothing you can't do," George Bush snr.

claig · 12/05/2010 09:34

why, didn't you understand it the first time?

ooojimaflip · 12/05/2010 09:17

Claig - tell us again how global warming is a massive conspiracy to cover up a different ecological disaster that requires exactly the same measures to correct it, put in place by the people who really run the world for no apparent reason.

HerHonesty · 12/05/2010 09:09

"I'm reasonably informed and I think the Daily Mail is great"

snort.
lol.

love, even cameron thinks the mail is a pile of wank. secretly true tories like him are embarrased that they have to rely on narrow minded mail readers to get into power, sorry, to get near to power.

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