The dust has almost settled. My assessment of how the BNP performed.

we din't have a BNP person standing in our area(no suprise there tbh)
Imo there isn't a big rise in racism and bigotry, just now we have the WWW the bigots just find it easier to spread thier vile stuff.
I do wonder though why some one would join a pearenting site just to spout thier vile beliefs.
bored housewife??

This thread makes me feel sick and want to burst into tears at the same time.

What's stormfront?

Just watching, wanted to make this appear on 'threads I'm on'.

I know a non-white BNP supporter. She seems to think that if the BNP clear out all the eastern europeans they'll stop at that.

When first they came for the criminals I did not speak
Then they began to take the jews
When they fetched the people who were member s of trades unions
I did not speak
Then they took the bible students
Round they took the homosexuals
Then they gathered up the students and the gypsies
I did not speak
I did not speak
Eventually they came for me there was no one left to speak

And BNP have no little sense of THEIR obligations of being a British citizen - ie being violent to hecklers and to the press.

Yes, we need a debate on immigration - we need to see where we're at in terms of facilities etc to house, educate and treat illnesses in the context of an economy that relies on migrant labour for growth.

But the BNP is NOT the arena for this debate.

DP - do you work?

I think one in 60 people voting for those idiots is quite scary actually.

Oh, fgs, how many black or asian people vote BNP?

The BNP did manage to find one spokesperson who was anti-muslim from a religious background that has a long history of religious conflict with muslims...(and he may have been fake) and certain (Asian) aquaintances of DPs started a (fake, satirical) campaign in favour of the BNP and it's anti-immigration policies called Keep Britain Black...but citing black and Asian people as being BNP voters as evidence of its not being racist is fatuous. Even if some black and Asian Britons have questions about recent E European immigration (and I have heard that directly from some people) it has hardly driven them into the arms of the BNP.

The rise of the BNP is a serious issue, and I feel should be debated in that way, name calling does not change peoples voting habits.

but why would any sensible black or asian or any other race vote for a party who would treat them as second class citizens??

toccanfudge. It does not make sense to say that Asians or black people, or others who vote BNP are thick, or racist , it does not make sense, it's like saying every person who voted for the Conservative party is a toff, or all Labour voters are working class.

And dp your assessment is rather weak.

Not many people admit to voting bnp - why is that? Is it because they are actually voting for racism, the breaking up of democracy and hate? Yes.

However, on a more optimistic note - that's not many votes really is it? I mean there are some parties in europe with similar views that are in the mainstream. I'm proud we haven't gone down that route and we won't.

DP - please get this- it's only the deluded and racist who would give bnp any credibility. That's not that many. The rest of the nation like a liberal democracy which aims for equality and there are way way too many of us that have non-white blood - that equals not many votes for BNP.

DP- I very much hope that you do not spout your delusions to your children.

well the blacks and asians that voted for them are obviously a little thick then.........as why would the vote for a party that doesn't even think they should have the same rights as me? (white british)

Eldritchcleavage. It is very simplistic to say that those who voted BNP are racist. I have known old people who have actually fought in WW2 say they will vote BNP, some black people vote for them and quite a few Asians. It's like saying oh, they voted BNP =racist, therefore we do not have to address the issues of why these people vote BNP, and we can also ignore the issues surrounding the rise of the BNP.

take the streets, not take to the streets. the fash lost the streets in 1981 and they never got them back.

And voting BNP is v v racist.

Dunno about that complimentary. Racist is as racist does.

I have found DP's Achille's heel! Insult her sense of humour! Quick, everyone together now! We can defeat her in the manner of a tiny army in one of those films where there is a giant robot/dinosaur terrorising the streets of Tokyo/NY...we all just need to aim for her SOH!

Loving that there is sensible debate going on in the background!

I'm British. The BNP certainly don't speak for me!
Maybe because I'm not a racist, homophobic, misogynistic hater of disabled children, like the BNP members are?

DP - you are somehow proud that half a million voters are nazi's.

My grandfather fought a war to keep them out.

explain yourself. And it's not about putting british born people, they are about curbing freedoms, putting women back in the dark ages, throwing non white people out by the hair, excluding disabled people. What's to be proud about?

And I do not buy those people who wanted to vote bnp as it's the only party dealing with immigration - it's the only party that has hate and civil war on its agenda.