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The dust has almost settled. My assessment of how the BNP performed.

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daftpunk · 11/05/2010 14:07

Ok, they didn't make the political breakthrough I'd hoped for, but if you look at the results they are actually very encouraging.

The BNP got 563,743 votes (dispite only fighting half of all the available 650 seats)

They got 10% of the vote. That is pretty amazing for a small party, and under proportional representation those votes would result in seats.

NC will merge with someone (eventually?) and as one of his main aims is to push through PR it's all good for the BNP.

What do these results mean for the BNP ?

The tripling of the BNP vote on May 6th has some important implications.

Firstly, where they went head to head with UKIP and the Greens they thrashed them, they overtook UKIP in 178 seats, and UKIP have far more money than the BNP, and of course UKIP and the Greens are favoured by the media.

Secondly, while all minority parties were pushed to the edge by the bigger parties, the BNP's vote not only help up, but proportionally increased when compared to their June 2009 Euro election results.

The BNP are here to stay, and although the election was a disappointment in some respests, it was a clear sign that 1000's of people up and down the country support the policies of the BNP.

And let's not forget, political pundits had all but written off the Labour party after they lost the 92'election....

They went on to win 3 elections.

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MIFLAW · 12/05/2010 12:27

10% of what vote?

600k out of 30m turnout is 2% (two per cent, or thirteen seats out of 650); out of total electorate (46m, which is 30m turnout divided by the 65% this apparently represents) it is 1.3% (one point three per cent, or eight seats).

Not to mention that, as already mentioned, people vote differently under PR (no need for "protest votes") and a potentially higher turnout could easily swamp even these modest figures.

Kewcumber · 12/05/2010 12:20

I'm glad DP is not banned. Every thread she posts about the BNP reminds me why I wouldn't vote for them whilst I still have breth in my body.

I also think Elections are good because more people wear stickers/put up posters for their chosen party and I can avoid the BNP ones. Otehrwise they lurk silently...

ladylush · 12/05/2010 12:17

Can imagine what she calls the Asian run convenience store

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 12:17

DD;

They didn't get 10% of the vote...that was MY error..

..I am getting 50 lashes as we speak

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elliemental · 12/05/2010 12:15

do you think she says things like ''oy oy Abdul! You don't me calling you abdul, eh?'' to the staff in Indian restaurants?

ladylush · 12/05/2010 12:13

drinking out of a union jack pint tankard

Downdog · 12/05/2010 12:03

"They got 10% of the vote. ..... under proportional representation those votes would result in seats."

Not true - people vote differently under PR, and there is usually a minimum % to be achieved before you get list seats

MIFLAW · 12/05/2010 11:57

In Daftpunks vision, Parliament will be replaced by seven Vikings standing round a shield on the floor.

As for songs, I don't know what to suggest. I have a very clear image of Daftpunk sitting in a dilapidated armchair, swigging Special Brew from the can with Lambrini chasers, while "Three Lions" and "Swing Low Sweet Chariot (Run With The Ball)" play in a non-stop back-to-back loop on a doctored iPod Shuffle through a £10 pair of speakers on the sideboard.

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 11:55

What about Paranoid..Black Sabbath..

Fan.tas.tic

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elliemental · 12/05/2010 11:53

I Hate You (so Much Right Now) - Kelis

It's Ok for me to post if I post suggested song titles, is it DP....?

tartyhighheels · 12/05/2010 11:49

"If you took the Liberals and the BNP and did some calculations on how they performed, taking everything into account, the BNP probably did better..." hmmmm, based in what stats????

daftpunk - you are an ignorant asshole, the only good thing about keeping this active is to show just that. You obviously have a high embarrasment threshold a well as a compromised moral compass. You are by your own definition and ignorant bigot.

elliemental · 12/05/2010 11:47

Drop Dead - Siouxie and the Banshees.

BessieBoots · 12/05/2010 11:46

What?! You started the thread, daftpunk, so you get to say who posts on it?!
Just because you don't want to post anymore doesn't mean the rest of us can't express our opinion- You knew this was going to be an inflammatory thread...

smallorange · 12/05/2010 11:46

Her naivety is astounding. Really, I think she actually believes the BNP could be revbranded in the style of New Labour and all will be some 1950's utopia with cricket on the village green, old maids cycling home from evensong as yhe sun sets over the (all White) village, bobbies on yhe beat giving kids a clip round yhe ear fir being cheeky, blah de blah.

And I bet it's Welling

elliemental · 12/05/2010 11:44

Love, life and Unity - Dreadzone
Back in Black - Any Winehouse
One Love - Bob Marley
Loser - Beck

ConDemNation · 12/05/2010 11:44

Oh get a grip DP

daftpunk · 12/05/2010 11:42

ellie;

will you stop posting on this thread, it's coming back into active convos and putting me off..

...I'm trying to think of 3 songs I can't live without....

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ConDemNation · 12/05/2010 11:41

You have just reminded me what I said in the post that was deleted the other day...I think it was that she was 'ugly minded'.

I'm not sure if that comes under personal attack more than the other wild insults being flung on this thread, but I stand by it...you couldn't write these things without having an ugly mind.

I daresay it isn't her fault she is that way. It's just such a shame that she can't see it. I find with a lot of people who lean on the BNP and such that their motivation is fear, hurt and anxiety. I don't know where it comes from, but that is no way to live your life. I wish some of them could break free of it.

elliemental · 12/05/2010 11:39

or was that a typo too?

elliemental · 12/05/2010 11:27

It must be a great comfort to know there are 563,743 other stupid, ignorant, bile-filled bigots out there.

BessieBoots · 12/05/2010 11:24

I feel a bit sick reading these threads.

daftpunk, I can only say that if it were you...

... that had a disabled child and had to fight daily for her/him to be treated with respect...

...that came from a country where you were consistently threatened with violence or death...

...had travelled and risked yourself and your children to get to a safehouse, only to be targeted and hated by thick, threatning men...

Maybe, just maybe, you would have a shred of compassion.

You see, in my book, if someone needs help, I give the help. I am on a tiny income, but I don't mind that my taxes go to house, clothe and feed people who haven't had the priveliged life I have. I do hope that, God forbid, if I, or my children, or my children's children ever need help, someone will offer it.

You are being inhumanly cruel.

MIFLAW · 12/05/2010 11:20

"y'know..democracy and all that, it's good to get all views and opinions".

it is SO tiring to hear Fascists bleating about democracy and, in the process, misdefining it to meet their own sad ends.

Democracy has NOTHING to do with it being a good thing to get all views and opinions.

It simply means that the will of the people takes precedence over the will of the "naturally" powerful (e.g. the rich.)

As the will of the people is clearly NOT the particular brand of neo-Fascism preached by Griffin et al (approx 1% of the population, 1.3% of the electorate and scarcely 2% of the turnout) there is no "democratic" imperative to discuss it. Quite the reverse, in fact - the people have spoken and the message is very clearly, "shut the fuck up!"

ladylush · 12/05/2010 11:06

MIFLAW - am a mental health nurse but wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire. She'd better enlist help from elsewhere.

ladylush · 12/05/2010 11:05

Lonely, desperate and confused

smallishsheep · 12/05/2010 11:04

I like fuckity bye too. It's like the adult version of toodle pip.

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