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Another unelected labour PM

341 replies

voteanythingbutBNPplease · 10/05/2010 17:05

Gordon brown resigns.
So if LIb dems do deal with labour - ANOTHER unelected PM.

hmmm

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lal123 · 10/05/2010 18:45

nevermind all that - how much would you have paid to have seen David Cameron's face at 5 o'clock??

Alouiseg · 10/05/2010 18:42

The Conservative party of Mrs Thatcher actually gave many more opportunities than it took away........as long as you were prepared to get on Tebbits bike and reject the culture of entitlement that was fostered by the last labour administration.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:38

gomez the Conservative of Maggie Thatcher was a long time ago. Where's the evidence to say that they are going to abandon people who are not sucessful? Where does it say that they don't value civil liverties, human rights and equality?

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:37

Civil liberties - don't make me laugh. Labour has given us the ultimate surveillance society with cams on every street, ID cards, ridiculous poers to local authorities to snoop on people....

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:36

Tax and interest rates do need to rise, the whole country lived the high life for a long time, it was never sustainable. The party had to end sometime, it's time for a clean up now and Labour just are no longer fit for the job.

gomez · 10/05/2010 18:35

Don't suggest for one minute that local election results can or indeed should be extrapolated - but given local government will be responsible for getting the best they can from the cut budgets it is I think disingenuous to suggest that voters for the local elections were only interested in planning applications or bin collections.

Belle - my view of the Conservatives is that of a party who will provide a framework for success with no safety net for those who can't manage that success for whatever reason. The Conservative version of civil liberties doesn't to my mind extend to human rights and equality.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:34

I work in the NHS, for the past 5/6 years there's not been enough staff, sickness is high because we are working on skeleton staff in some departments. It's rediculous, there are lovely new PFI hospitals but there's no staff to work in them! All glossy on the outside but when you look inside...

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:34

But interest rates will rise - great for savers and great for buying an investment property when house prices plummet.

If that's what they really want - I'll benefit.

Alouiseg · 10/05/2010 18:32

Unless our economy is stabilised there won't be any rubbish collections! Or education, or health, or anything that the government control.

The markets have indicated that they want a conservative government. Without that our debt repayments will go through the roof and we are talking about billions of pounds in interest payments.

We will be downgraded and the future of the country is about as stable as Greece.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:31

Probably becasue we in the public service see every day just what a waste of public money labour policies have caused

Quattrocento · 10/05/2010 18:30

We'll have weeks of this uncertainty.

I quite fancied a Con-Lib hook-up. The Libs would stop the worst of the Tory excesses, but the economy would be handled reasonably.

Slightly more scared of a new lib-lab pact. Neither party had any real agenda around managing the budget deficit, and that's more of a worry than which labour mp is going to become PM

But now I'm getting used to this uncertainty, I quite like not having a government. It's kind of freeing. Makes you realise how unnecessary it was. And look, the markets went up ....

Aussieng · 10/05/2010 18:27

Labour lost a huge proportion of their vote in the North East where the major Civil Service cuts will be effected.

MintHumbug · 10/05/2010 18:26

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:26

How do you know that the Conservatives have no empathy?

gomez · 10/05/2010 18:25

I am not a labour supporter but if forced to chose I would go for the party with some social conscience and a degree of empathy for the poorer in this society.

Interesting that Labour have performed well in local English elections where people know the cuts a lot of the cuts in public services are going to be managed/implemented and it would appear that they would prefer Labour to be presiding over those cuts.

fembear · 10/05/2010 18:23

"Fairness and Conservative, eh no can't make it work - oxymoron I think."

Conservatives believe in equality of opportunity, as opposed to Labour who believe in equality of outcome aka dumbing down, politics of envy etc

getthewineinthefridge · 10/05/2010 18:23

It can't be Ed Balls, need a dead cert seat for leader/PM and he only has a majority of about one and a half now.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:22

Winky - the Lib Dems are a very braos spectrum ranging from those whose 2nd vote would be Tory and those whose 2nd vote would be Lab - however they do frequently attempt to calim the 'moral ground' and denying the laregst party office by siding with the Labs will split them right down the middle.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:21

How's Labour fair gomez? You can't seriously think that they will take any of the Lib dems policies on board, they don't even listen to their electorate.

Triggles · 10/05/2010 18:19

Nick Clegg is beginning to get slammed on television news though. He is changing his goalposts and going back on what he said previously. News claims he is now having a "dutch auction." I think he may find his credibility falling at this.

WinkyWinkola · 10/05/2010 18:19

Don't you think Liberal voters are more likely to vote Labour than Tory? Given the choice.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:18

Let the Rainbow Tossers get on with it.

Within a year we'll have a landslide Tory Govt as noone will vote Lib Dem again

gomez · 10/05/2010 18:18

Fairness and Conservative, eh no can't make it work - oxymoron I think.

Liberal Parliamentary party were happy enough with the idea of a Conservative alliance however when they started pushing for details on how it would actually work it all appeared to fall to bits - i.e. the Tories were offering a few crumbs and assuming that Nick Clegg would play along. Rumbled I think!

MintHumbug · 10/05/2010 18:17

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:16

It would be wrong to say that Labour listens though, how can a party who clearly (tuition fees/Iraq) don't listen to the people who elected them be trusted to work with another party? If the lib dems join them it will be a huge mistake.