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Another unelected labour PM

341 replies

voteanythingbutBNPplease · 10/05/2010 17:05

Gordon brown resigns.
So if LIb dems do deal with labour - ANOTHER unelected PM.

hmmm

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MmeLindt · 10/05/2010 18:13

It is not about fairness.

Why should lib dems enter into a coalition with a party whose ideals and policies are not compatible with their own? That is not going to work.

They have to enter into a coalition with a party with whom they can govern. No use if they form a coalition and it breaks down because the two parties cannot work together.

Madsometimes · 10/05/2010 18:09

If Labour had more seats than the Tories then as a Lib Dem voter, I would say go with them. The uncomfortable truth is that Labour has far fewer votes and seats than the Tories. They have no mandate, but it seems that they will cling on to power and disregard fairness.

I have lost all respect for NC if he joins this "Rainbow Coalition." What a mess.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:08

Alot of people have had to endure a Labour government, I can't see people who support the conservatives bitching and complaining about Labour, I can, however, see alot of Labour supporters moaning about how terrible the Conservatives are without producing any evidence at all to support their claim other then to say that they are crap etc.

I am a conservative and proud to be one. I have not moaned since the Labour party took over so shut the hell up will you, it's pathetic.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:05

There's nothing wrong with the Tories.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:04

Your 'beliefes' are obscuring fairness MmeLindt.

FrakkedUpTheElection · 10/05/2010 18:03

Oh and I totally agree that the Lib Dems needs to prove they can form a coalition and act 'in the national interest'

MmeLindt · 10/05/2010 18:03

It is not about clinging to power. It is about not wanting a Tory government who is anathema to my beliefs.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 18:03

It's getting really heavy now. Just watched Adam Boulton and Alistair campbell laying into each other - thought they might actually come to blows

whiffleiseggsauceted · 10/05/2010 18:03

Thank you fembear. Clegg's acting very duplicitous. Wasting 4 days of the conservatives (and nation's) time. This is not the way to negotiate. What a wolly!

MmeLindt · 10/05/2010 18:02

British politics have outgrown the two party electoral system. That is the problem.

My point with the percentages was that no party has a majority, which was going to happen at some point as there are too many parties in UK to stick with the FPTP system.

Germany has PR and the government is formed by the 2 parties who together have the most votes and can work together to form a coalition.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 18:02

I Agree OhBugger. They are hardly acting for the benefit of the country.

OhBuggerandArse · 10/05/2010 18:00

Listen to the hard-line Labour hacks though - some of them would clearly rather go into opposition than face the thought of having to cooperate with the Nats. I don't think it's even about who's in power as much as everyone having to get their heads round what it might mean to have collaborative rather than confrontational politics.

bobthebuddha · 10/05/2010 17:59

This is a fucking shambles. I could spit.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 17:57

Oh get real mmeLindt

On that basis we shoudl award Olympic gold to the 2nd and 3rd place high-jumpers as collectively they jumped higher than than the guy who actually did jump the highest.

You Labourites are doing yourselves no favours at all by attempting to cling to power - it'll just make the electorate ensure they boot you well and truly out at the next election - just so you finally get the message

EdgarAllenPoll · 10/05/2010 17:57

Tory: 36%
Labour: 29%
Lib Dem: 23%

Soooooooo, 52% of the British public voted Lib-Lab

they didn't. they voted labour or liberal.

59% voted lib-con if you want to look at it that way...but it doesn't reflect what happened . this talk of 'progressive majority' is bollocks. whn people voted labour, they didn't vote for some imaginary 'progressive' party...

tiredemma · 10/05/2010 17:57

Alan Johnson?

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 17:56

Yeah, how many voted for the BNP though? Doesn't mean they are right does it?

FrakkedUpTheElection · 10/05/2010 17:56

Thing is that GB was even unelected by his party. TB 'formally handed over power' to him. Half the freaking LABOUR party weren't happy!

If the Labour party have a leadership election then that is fair, their new leader will be elected leader of the party who are 'in power'. It's a bit of a con though because Labour's only claim to power at the moment is that GB is the sitting PM and therefore has first dibs on forming a new Govt (which NC completely flushed down the pan...)

MmeLindt · 10/05/2010 17:56

It is also in the countries best interest if the coalition parties have similar ideals and policies.

Not just stuck together with some mangy elastoplast.

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 17:54

Not badly enough belle as about 6million voters seem to think they were doing OK

MmeLindt · 10/05/2010 17:54

Why this talk about the 2nd and 3rd parties in the election?

Tory: 36%
Labour: 29%
Lib Dem: 23%

Soooooooo, 52% of the British public voted Lib-Lab

Aussieng · 10/05/2010 17:53

I'm not sure that extreme argument works thouh Fembear. Many people disapply basic beliefs when dealing with the BNP. When talking of the mainstream parties I consider my logic holds good.

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 10/05/2010 17:52

Labour have already done that though WetAugust

fembear · 10/05/2010 17:51

"NC';s position is that every vote should count so how could he not talk first to the Tories (As winner of most seats and largest share of the votes) without compromising that mainstay of LD principles?"

Tosh. To take the argument to its extreme - if UKIP or BNP had got most votes would he have got into bed with them?

WetAugust · 10/05/2010 17:50

I think Cameron should walk away from it all and let the Rainbow Twunts muddle on for another couple of months until they wreck the country so badly that they'll never be in office ever again.