Cameron has Guts!

I thought I saw a man who was trying his best to appear Prime Ministerial. I think he hid any "desperation" as well as he could but it did seem that he wanted to be seen to be extending the hand of potential government to the LibDems very blatantly. I think it would have been prudent to have alluded more to a potential pact (to inform the voting public of his intentions) - it felt like a big political "come on" to me and a tad embarassing to witness. I sensed a huge amount of supressed frustration - it must be killing him to be so near and yet...

I think he did incredibly well in the circumstances, coming back from such a low base. Unfortunate that it isn't a majority but, if it goes well this weekend, the removal vans should be pulling up at No.10.

"Cameron has to use phrases like 'outgoing PM' for the same reason.... you've got to look the part and talk the talk if you're going to drive it through and become PM."

Agree.

Give the guy credit though - he's +95!

After the Scottish elections Alex Salmond - despite not having an overall majority - helicoptered in and declared victory. Everyone bought it. Cameron has to use phrases like 'outgoing PM' for the same reason.... you've got to look the part and talk the talk if you're going to drive it through and become PM.

BTW... The Lib Dems will feel a sense of betrayal no matter who their leader opts to work with. Their natural affinity definitely not with the Conservatives but if they ally themselves with Labour it's like hitching a ride on a sinking ship.

it wasnt gutsy, it was desperate. after 13 years in the wilderness, piles of ashcroft cash and supposedly the most intelligent people in britain on his campaign, the man stil hasnt managed to lead his party to decisive victory.

i understand clegg's tactics but reckont here are lots of LD's who will feel a sense of betrayal, particularly if they dont get electoral reform = and not some phoney committee.

what happened to the Jenkins Report?

Well if Cameron and Clegg are unable to come to an agreement,it is feasible that Gordon Brown could be the Prime Minister of a lab-lib pacy until the next election.So it was very presumptuous of Cameron to say what he did.

bubbles4, um Gordon Brown IS the outgoing PM. There's no getting around the fact. Even his supporters know this.

I'm only joking about Osborne. He gets a terrible press, I haven't made my mind up about him yet, don't know enough about him.

"By AbsOfCroissant Fri 07-May-10 15:43:02
Are you saying he's fat?"

Am afraid that on seeing the thread title, that was my first thought too...

But Claig, even Simon Heffer refers to Osborne as 'Little Boy George'.

also ignore the hostile reports about Gideon Osborne. Some of the inner circle refer to him as "the Boy Wonder"

Same Tory arrogance,he referred to Gordon Brown as the out-going Prime Minister,well as I understand it under Constitutional rules Gordon Brown will remain Prime Minister until he decides he cannot form an alliance and resigns.

As for David Cameron being described as selfless,selfish more like,jobs for the boys is an apt description for the Tories,as I heard him described on the radio this week,David Cameron is one of Thatcher,s children and that scares the hell out of me.

seth, I wouldn't put it past him, some of us think he is very close to Superman

he didn't have to write the speech from scratch after staying up all night then?

sethstarkaddersmum, I think they have had all of their people preparing for this eventuality over the last few weeks. That's why they can put it all together so quickly. As Dr, Johnson said, "the prospect of hanging concentrates the mind wonderfully", and they will be hung, drawn and quartered by the markets if they don't come to an agreement soon.

thanks Longfingernails, that's what I thought.

Though Brown would be forced to offer cabinet seats to the Lib Dems. Cameron might just be able to get away without it, because he is so close to overall majority territory.

But Brown is just out. He lost about 100 seats. No Prime Minister can justify staying on after being utterly humiliated like that.

you did dream it

he said the pupil premium stuff (very minor relevancy in the big scheme of things)

lower tax thresholds - what he said was Tories 'always support low taxation for lower incomes' - this is a shower of shite

green policy - ho ho ho - dinnae be silly, he said NOTHING with substance

chance to serve in government - with a government on the other side of the political spectrum? who aren't popular enoughy to get rid of Brown? who are completely factionalised? - are you serious?

sethstarkaddersmum

No - Cameron has (more or less explicitly).

First he talked about the prospects for a minority Tory government, where the Lib Dems simply agreed not to vote down the Tories on confidence motions and the Budget.

But then he said he preferred a proper coalition with the Lib Dems, with concessions from both sides on policy, because it would provide more stable government.

has Brown specifically offered seats in the cabinet then?

LaurieFecktheToriesCake

Maybe I just dreamed the stuff on the structuring of the pupil premium, the changing of the lower tax thresholds, the aspects of green policy, etc? Not to mention the elephant in the room - the chance to serve in government...

er no....

Brown offered legislation - this is where something actually gets done

Cameron offered a committee in a wee room with biscuits

get a fucking clue

I was really surprised he made that offer to the Lib Dems in a big open speech. I'd somehow imagined that all this stuff would be happening in private, Mandelson-style. So glad he did it this way. (of course there may be stuff going on behind the scenes too.)

Cameron is 'different, a new broom'

only if different means ham-shine on the outside, old lady Thatcher on the inside

'new broom' - my arse

Cameregg / Cleggeron... it's all merging into one now.