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Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

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Nymphadora · 07/05/2010 12:01

Hello

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taffetacat · 08/05/2010 13:10

DavidHameron - take your point about the comma but it does raise an implication, a suggestive eyebrow, n'est ce pas?

I am liking the look of Tom Clark in Guardian's LabLib potential coalition cabinet line up heading up by D Mil.

Prolesworth · 08/05/2010 13:10

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policywonk · 08/05/2010 13:09

That's what I think, Prolesworth

If LD agree a command and supply arrangement, Cons gvt could be fairly stable albeit not for a full term, and without getting the worst of their programme through.

PfftThePinkoLeftyDragon · 08/05/2010 13:07

No Mme, because they have to agree not to gang up against them if they form a minority.

MmeLindtChocBrownies · 08/05/2010 13:07

Blogged about the British Angst today.

I don't really understand why the electorate would not be persuadable that PR is the only right thing to do. (in a referendum)

Nothing I have read makes sense, the Tory objection to it (if you take away the fact the obvious point that it is HUGELY beneficial for them)

I have never been so politically outspoken. Even blogging about it. My mum will read my blog with a face, she is used to ramblings about the weather and the kids.

Francagoestohollywood · 08/05/2010 13:06

Justabout, don't get me started on periods

Francagoestohollywood · 08/05/2010 13:05

I don't have anything constructive to say, but I'm reading this thread with great interest.
Can I just say that the only new channelò I get from Italy is SKYnews and it's highly irritating me?

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 13:04

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MmeLindtChocBrownies · 08/05/2010 13:03

Could Labour and Lib Dems push through Electoral Reform against the wishes of a Tory minority government?

electra · 08/05/2010 13:02

I don't mean right away - but I don't think it's a good idea for him to stay as leader for the long term. He's a good politician but not rigt for leadership imo.

policywonk · 08/05/2010 13:01

Yes ISNT, things are definitely becoming more pluralised and that can only be a good thing, democratically speaking. (The cost of that of course is more support for fringe r-wing parties too.)

Anyone else finding that political excitement is bad for the waistline? I am mainlining chocolate and booze.

Just saw Portillo commenting placidly that no elected politician in Europe has any choice about fiscal policy as it will all be dictated by investors. nnnnNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGHHHhhhhh

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 13:01

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PfftThePinkoLeftyDragon · 08/05/2010 13:00

But they can't ditch Brown - and if they do, the Tories will be in.

They can make a deal with the Lib Dems to ditch him in the future I suppose though.

electra · 08/05/2010 12:58

I agree sophable - I think Brown should realise he needs to go - people just do not connect with him and that is a problem however much it shouldn't be. Labour have been in trouble ever since he became PM in my opinion and they will not be able to recover until someone else takes that position. I feel sorry for him - it flew in his face.

animula · 08/05/2010 12:58

sophable - yep, I get that. 'tis hard for Clegg. I just want him to hold out for someone, anyone, to get out there, sleeves rolled up, or otherwise, actually standing there in front of Clegg, laying down the rail-tracks to PR.

It's a very "interesting" chess-position he's in.

Prolesworth · 08/05/2010 12:57

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ImSoNotTelling · 08/05/2010 12:57

This business about the tories not getting a majority despite a terrible run of luck for GB, a huge recession etc etc.

Talking to DH, I reckon that it will be new labs lasting legacy that voters have become more fluid and open to changing sides.

When newlab came a lot of the old style labour left and voted for a party other than labour for the first time ever. Ditto they won support from people who were traditionally conservatives.

Now that people have been "freed up" to vote for parties other than the one dictated by their upbringing/area of the country/job type etc etc I don't know that we'll ever see this huge majority one way then the other way stuff again.

DH thinks it's all changed forever.

I think we will also see more people voting for minority parties - I mean teh greens getting in in brighton will make people think a bit...

So bring on PR and let's have a shiny new way of doing it all (please )

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 12:55

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policywonk · 08/05/2010 12:53

Ah it's OK, he's on Sky now. Recommending a Cons minority gvt and generally agreeing with Me.

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 12:51

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Heathcliffscathy · 08/05/2010 12:51

clegg, who is for power to the electorate CAN'T deal with brown who is unelected and has been spanked in this election: he has NO legitimacy and NO mandate.

clegg also said that whoever got most seats must try to form govt during the campaign...he can't go back on that!

however you feel about labour or brown you must see that they are utterly lacking in any kind of legitimacy at the moment with brown at their head??? surely?

animula · 08/05/2010 12:47

Justa - you've cheered me up (easily reassured by firm, sensible tones,) now I can go back to fretting about the onebat scenario.

policywonk · 08/05/2010 12:47

Apparently Evan Harris was on Dimblebore - did anyone see what he said?

Clegg hates Brown, that's pretty firmly established I think

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