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Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

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Nymphadora · 07/05/2010 12:01

Hello

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policywonk · 08/05/2010 15:09

Twitter peeps reporting that Brown has left No 10 and is heading for Scotland - possibly for a resignation speech...

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 15:08

Not saying there is no divide but it is nothing like that of the UK. DH has a hard time identifying British toffs as toffs for example. He often thinks they are poor as they have that shabby thing going on sometimes.

Nymphadora · 08/05/2010 15:07

On my phone so may have missed bits.

GB can't resign or the Tories get in right? And if he wanted to the Queen has to be involved? And for Ham to take charge the Queen has to agree? So is she stillhiding away?

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DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 15:07

Dunno. Ooh someone coming out from LDHQ...

justaboutacompletedfamily · 08/05/2010 15:07

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Prolesworth · 08/05/2010 15:06

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policywonk · 08/05/2010 15:03

oh well there you go, I'm talking out of my arse again

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 15:03

True France is a classless socialist republic (mostly) thanks to the Revolution.

DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 15:03

They're shouting 'we want to speak to Nick'

DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 15:03

Oh god i'm gonna have to find a new twitter account now I deactivated the other one: I'm laughing to much at my own jokes.

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DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 15:02

Special branch are lining up with their special deterrent: raw meat

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 15:00

Ooh protesters outside talks - good for them.

DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 15:00

Beards aplenty, well-chosen coloured scarves and not a black hoodie or SWP banner in sight: like no other demo you've ever seen...

DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 14:58

Blimey. LibDem HQ being shouted at by Take Back Parliament campaign.

Something very amusing about direct action by bunch of lentil weaving PR supporters

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DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 14:55

S'cos we never had that bloody revolution we needed.

French do have a class system of sorts I think but it is more rural/urban, North/South, Paris/everyone else... And much less entrenched and complex as ours.

policywonk · 08/05/2010 14:53

The thing is, the French don't have (do they?) an equivalent class structure. I don't mean income disparities, but this incredibly durable British system of major public schools-Oxbridge/Russell Group-professions (including politics). All these potent class signifiers that allow the self-appointed ruling classes to identify each other, and insidiously exclude almost everyone else. I'm not sure what we do about this, short of lining several thousand people up against a wall (which of course the French did fairly regularly over a 100-year period )

DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 14:53
Grin
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DavidHameron · 08/05/2010 14:48

Everyone is ignoring me

Don't you know who I AM?!

Pendulum · 08/05/2010 14:45

ROFL at Gammeron

Beachcomber, I agree about the progressive/ non-progressive divide- I made a similar point myself earlier.

One thing I am wondering, in a PR system like the French one, where would the LibDems sit? Would they vote together, or would they sit more to the left or right depending on their individual views? It might be hard to have a party whip on some issues.

CatIsSleepy · 08/05/2010 14:43

haha at the cross tory

that's what they're really like, for all of hamface's caring veneer. good to remember that!

Beachcomber · 08/05/2010 14:42

Great link policywonk .

Just thinking, in France we do have a right wing and right wing parties, however they are nothing like the Conservatives. The right in France is much more modern and less entrenched in old school tie, etc. If the UK had a right wing party like this they probably would have won this election. They tried to put a modern face on things with Hameron/Osborne (hence keeping everybody else and much of their policy in the background) but have failed to convince people.

The Tories are about as relevant today as an uncomfortable and smelly horsehair sofa.

This is the beginning of the end for them (under their current guise), especially if we get electoral reform.