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Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

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Nymphadora · 07/05/2010 12:01

Hello

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Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 19:12

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theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 19:09

sorry, shoudl have been "a clear absolute majority" - no idea where the rogue "ly" came from!

policywonk · 07/05/2010 19:08

Not a workable majority BIWI - that's 316 (314 if you discount Sinn Fein) I think

theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 19:08

Gordon - I think they are anti reform because although they would be the majority party in a PR system, they would probably never again have a clear absolutely majority.

ATM the way the lefty vote is split between lib and lab, and the way the liberal vote is spread across the country, gives the Tories a v good chance of an outright majority.

PR would effectively stop that. That's my understanding of it, anyway.

Plus I think they are perhaps more ideologically attached to the constituency model anyway.

LeninGrad · 07/05/2010 19:08

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BecauseIAgreeWithGordon · 07/05/2010 19:04

Pol - so that would mean an obvious majority for the Conservatives - so why are they anti electoral reform?

theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 19:04

it's on "discussions of the day" Proles (in fact they were very proud of this and have mentioned on the thread that the lefties were demoted from discussions of the day and replaced by Anxious Tories).

Gwan. You know you want to.

LeninGrad · 07/05/2010 19:04

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theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 19:03

Bratwurst Boris?

Biltong Boris?

Sorry PW, I realise you are trying to make serious points [puts on serious face]

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 19:02

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elkiedee · 07/05/2010 19:02

Yay for Islington - was Lib Dem for nearly 12 years but down to a very slender Lib Dem majority - now 35-13 Labour!

Labour have done better elsewhere too - hopefully that will help resist Tory cuts - or Tory-Lib Dem coalition cuts.

theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 19:01

I don't think it is a wind up! I would be lying if I said there was broad cross-thread support though. It's more a maverick poster.

No-one's actively laughing though (well, except DavidHameron but then he would mock the likelihood of himself being replaced by Bozza)

PfftThePinkoLeftyDragon · 07/05/2010 19:00

Boris!? But he doesn't have any meat like qualities at all!

policywonk · 07/05/2010 19:00

Would also mean 20 UKIP MPs, 12 BNP MPs. I've over-guessed the LD share as well, it was 23%, so 150 MPs.

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 18:58

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policywonk · 07/05/2010 18:55

BIWI, PR should mean that the parties have seats in proportion to their share of the vote. So Tories' 36% = 234 seats (as opposed to 305); Labour 28% = 182 seats (as opposed to 260ish); LibDem 26% = 169 seats (as opposed to 56ish). (%s are from memory)

theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 18:53

Honestly. I kid you not. Go and have a look.

FingonTheValiant · 07/05/2010 18:53

Hahaha

Lefties for Boris, I say

That's so hilarious I felt I had to stop lurking. Says a lot about the calibre of Tory voters that they think that would be good for their party.

DavidHameron · 07/05/2010 18:53

I know! I had to delurk on their thread just to laugh!

Come and join my I joined the Labour Party today thread...

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 18:50

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theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 18:47

Prolesworth - they are saying that a lib-con coalition is likely and that Boris Johnson should replace Hameron as leader.

To which I say: yes please please oh god please

Can you imagine [boggles]

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 18:45

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ImSoNotTelling · 07/05/2010 18:36

Agree with ninja too

As appealing as a lib/lab agreement is, it does kind of chuck the whole process to one side if the people who got the most votes don't have any say IYSWIM it would be too divisive

I'm going for referendum + new election as my preferred outcome

CatIsSleepy · 07/05/2010 18:28

i guess in a 3-party system PR means perpetual coalitions doesn't it?

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