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Depressed Lefty red eye - The morning after the night before

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Nymphadora · 07/05/2010 12:01

Hello

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theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 22:04

Mmelindt - I think they have a point.

Most of the press is effectively right wing, and the problem is that an alliance with Labour would - in simple terms - be a "fuck you" to the electorate, disenfranchising the party that the voters chose to give a majority to.

Of course the liblabs would attempt to spin it differently, saying that the mandate was to a coalition - but without the support of most of the press, they would be looking at a bleak winter of constant harping, and blame for inevitable hard decisions that will have to be made.

More importantly, with massive press opposition, a referendum on PR is unlikely to succeed. If the Mail, the Sun, the Telegraph, probably the Times and many of the sundries ALL lobby against the referendum, PR will be dead in the water before it's even been discussed - and that will be the end of it for the foreseeable future. They won't get two chances for a referendum in this generation.

IMO

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 22:01

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theyoungvisiter · 07/05/2010 22:00

wow - that Guardian article is really good. Especially the analyst's take on the pros and cons for coalition with either party.

So essentially the lib dems are screwed whatever they do - and the other two parties are screwed if they do nothing.

Conclusion: we're all screwed. At least for the moment. Is it passe to blame the banks again?

justaboutacompletedfamily · 07/05/2010 21:56

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CatIsSleepy · 07/05/2010 21:56

am very very glad there was no tory landslide, and that labout hasn't been obliterated

as penth said earlier, maybe it's time for labour to regroup and come back stronger

MmeLindtChocBrownies · 07/05/2010 21:55

Do you know what really pisses me off? That in the Guardian article the Lib Dems see the "right wing press" as a reason to not go with Labour.

FFS. What is WRONG with this country, that this is even a consideration?

EnchantedWithGordon · 07/05/2010 21:54

OOOH, What about

"David 'Gammon'on"

auberginesrus · 07/05/2010 21:53

Popping in for an update, and trying not to get despondent about possibility of Con/Lib alliance.

Thanks for the link to the guardian article, PW and VRL has cheered me up no end. I particularly liked the senior lib dem saying of Cameron's offer:

"You wouldn't buy it off a used car salesman,"

EnchantedWithGordon · 07/05/2010 21:52

at least he can be all smug-bastard about a majority win,

people are still fighting to keep them out.

conservative is a change we DON'T want.

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 21:49

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MarionCole · 07/05/2010 21:49

I thought you meant "pretty fucking quickly"

wubblybubbly · 07/05/2010 21:48

VRL that Guardian article really puts Clegg in a no win situation.

Maybe the best we can hope for is a minority tory government, without a broad support in the commons and a GE in another year? Not sure how well that will sit with sorting out the public finances though.

MmeLindtChocBrownies · 07/05/2010 21:47

That should have been pdq, but pfq works too.

MmeLindtChocBrownies · 07/05/2010 21:46

Lots of fab messages on SB's twitter as well as a couple of not so nice ones. I think the nasty ones get deleted pfq.

CatIsSleepy · 07/05/2010 21:45

yup am fatigued

pleased about the local elections though

apropos of nothing, dh is in the kitchen trying to drink a mango through a straw
I don't think it's working

LeninGrad · 07/05/2010 21:44

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EnchantedWithGordon · 07/05/2010 21:39

I feel a bit 'gah' now too.

Its going on too long, it was exciting but now my head just won't relax and stop thinking.

I'm going to have to turn over and switch off the PC and watch some mindless comedy crap to stop me from having torie nightmares again

redrosette · 07/05/2010 21:35

I'm getting so bored of it all now. I think it will all fail and there'll be another election where the tories will do badly because of their failure to organise a coalition govt.

hopes

SparklyGothKat · 07/05/2010 21:32

didn't matter who i voted for yesterday, our MP is tory, and it was a safe tory seat, he won with 57% of the votes, I kinda knew he would win again

VoteRedLentil · 07/05/2010 21:29

There's a useful new take on how negotiations are going in The Guardian

Prolesworth · 07/05/2010 21:27

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SpringHeeledJack · 07/05/2010 21:26

gah bollocks. hoped the Tories would lose Hammersmith and Fulham

VoteRedLentil · 07/05/2010 21:24

People are posting vile things to Sarah Brown on twitter . If you're on there, a message of support would redress the balance.

policywonk · 07/05/2010 21:24

Oh yes and am thinking sympathetically of assorted arms/respiratory systems/nadgers you are a sickly lot

MmeLindtChocBrownies · 07/05/2010 21:22

I never use hear hear because I get hear/here angst

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