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** Official MN Election Night Thread - let's hold hands and wait together ** Pt2

285 replies

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 04:20

oops filled the other one

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toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:08

too late.........little voice just said "mu-um"

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iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:06

tocca - hit that sofa I would lol

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 09:05

I must be tired. I cant understand any of the stuff they are saying anymore.

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 09:05

have to say I'm still quite about Lib Dem taking Redcar- just had to go back and check the result to make sure I didn't dream it in my very short sleep.

Debating whether to hit the (other) sofa for a bit until DS3 wakes up......

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 09:04

interesting times!!!

SomeGuy · 07/05/2010 09:01

Current results
Tories: 288
Labour: 241
Lib Dem: 51
DUP: 8
SNP: 6
SF: 4
PC: 3
SDLP: 3
Green: 1
Alliance: 1
Sylvia Hermon: 1

Remaining seats:
Safe:
Argyll & Bute - Lib Dems hold
Bethnal Green - Labour
Blyth Valley - Labour should hold over Lib Dems
Brent Central - Labour should hold, possible Lib Dem
Broadland - should be Tory hold
Buckingham - Speaker
Devon West - Tories should hold, Lib Dems have chance
East Ham - Labour hold
Erith Thamesmead - Labour should hold
Hackney North - Labour hold
Hackney South - Labour hold
Hampshire NE - Tory hold
Hexham - Tory hold
Huntingdon - Tory hold
Kenilworth & Southam - Tory hold
Lewisham Dept - Labour
Lewisham W& Penge - Labour
Old Bexley - Tory hold
Penrith - Tory hold
Saffron Walden - Tory hold
Skipton & Ripon - Tory hold
St Ives - LD hold
Thirsk & Malton - Tory hold
Wansbeck - Labour hold
West Ham - Labour hold
Wythenshawe - Labour hold

LD 2
Labour 12
Tory 11
Speaker 1

Marginal:
Amber Valley - marginal Tory/Labour
Brent North - probable Labour hold, Tories have outside chance
Cheltenham - marginal Lib Dem/Tory
Copeland - outside chance of Tory win, probable Labour hold
Dudley North - 50/50 for Tories to gain from Labour
Ellesmere Port - outside chance for Tory gain
Fermanagh - SF or Unionist
Hendon - Tories strong chance of gain from Labour
Lancaster & Fleetwd - 50/50 Tory gain from Labour
Morecambe - slim chance of Tory gain from Labour
Norwich North - Labour/Tory marginal
Oldham East - Labour should hold over Lib Dems
Poplar & Limehouse - Tories have slim chance of gain from Labour
Thurrock - Lab/Tory marginal
Warwick - Lab/Tory marginal
Westmorland & Lonsdale - Lib Dem/Tory marginal

1 SF/unionist
15 marginals

Tories might get 8
Lib Dem 1 Labour 6

so:

Tories: 308
Labour: 259
Lib Dem: 54
DUP: 8
SNP: 6
SF: 4
PC: 3
SDLP: 3
Unionists: 2
Green: 1
Alliance: 1
Speaker: 1

which does seem to make a grand coalition for Labour/LD/Nationalists just about possible; otoh the Tories need to win ALL the 15 possibles to even think about forming a government with the unionists. Which won't happen, so IMO the next step is to try and negotiate with individual Labour and/or Lib Dem MPs to cross the floor and join the Tories.

If they do very well in the remaining seats, tempting 3 or 4 MPs to cross the floor could just do the trick.

toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 08:57

oh and >>> was you was it

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toccatanfudge · 07/05/2010 08:56

morning again everyone, just managed to get the DS's out on time for school

DS3 woke up 10 minutes after I went to lie on the sofa (incredibly I still didn't fall straight asleep despite having been up most of the night!) so then had to make him milk, brin him downstairs, persaude him to go back to sleep top and tailing with me on the sofa....

So that was about 6.30 by the time got that sorted, then my alarm went off (repeatedly as I kept hitting snooze ) from 7.30.....

tired........ermm - just a bit

DS3 is still asleep on the sofa

Glad to see that BNP have remained under 2% of the overall vote

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FakePlasticTrees · 07/05/2010 08:42

hi all, I was too sleepy to stop up and talk. Just watching the maths on BBC news - slightly nervy about this. Even Lab/LibDem isn't enough, so they'd need SNP - who are talking about making a condition of their support that cuts don't hit Scotland - is that right? How much more screwed with those of us in England be if the cuts can't be spread throughout all the UK. Apparently they'll need PC in Wales too, I can see they'd need something similar...

hate to say it, but think another election to get a 'cleaner' result is the best option. (Really don't see a con/LibDem pack lasting more than 5 minutes, they are too different)

On the bright side, BNP didn't get any seats. Nasty, horrid, hatefuelled people.

ASecretLemonadeDrinkerDAVE · 07/05/2010 08:42

watford - blue

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 08:36

going for a wash - back in a bit.....

duchesse · 07/05/2010 08:32

I guess the SNP vote is more geographical though, whereas the BNP voters will be spread across the whole union.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 08:31

wouldnt want it, but a lib/lab pact with a guarantee of electoral reform as a first priority would, for me be the best of a bad bunch.

caramelwaffle · 07/05/2010 08:29

That is sooooo CRAP duchesse - why in earth vote for BNP over SNP; are people crazy?

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 08:25

Jeremy Vine is losing his voice

duchesse · 07/05/2010 08:24

So half a million fuckers people voted for the BNP- more than for the SNP.

gaelicsheep · 07/05/2010 08:24

I really really hope that the Lib Dems would not support a party that has lost so spectacularly. They must keep their integrity despite the disappointing result.

gaelicsheep · 07/05/2010 08:23

Respect to you ladies who stayed the course to a second thread. I'm crossing fingers for a Tory/Lib Dem coalition - not sure how likely that is though.

Brollyflower · 07/05/2010 08:21

Of course the reality is I can't see a con-lib pact somehow. Mandleson's on radio 4 making very positive noises about electoral reform. I betcha the shadowy men are all on the phone to each other already and have been for hours.

paddingtonbear1 · 07/05/2010 08:19

Just got up, downstairs tv showing mickey mouse until dd has gone to school!
Really disappointed LibDem haven't done better.

iamfabregasted · 07/05/2010 08:16

lem - but sinn fein wouldn't take their seats, so what would be the point?

Does that mean, does anyone know, that they can't go into a coalition with anyone coz they don't vote in the uk parliament? They wouldn't be voting on any issues iyswim??

mspotatochip · 07/05/2010 08:16

We have 2 x tv, computer and netbook will come to some arrangement Baba is asleep after vomiting most of night, dd playing in her room in v good form considering the erm output.

So what outcome do we all want? A tory DUP coalition would be my personal ultimate nightmare a labour lib dem coalition quite appeals. Could cope with cons if osbourne not chancellor his inexperience is truly terrifying

NoahAndTheWhale · 07/05/2010 08:13

Morning. Went to bed about 3:45 and probablya good idea.

Toccata it was me who posted on your wall with the initials KT by the way .

SIL's Watford seat still to declare.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 07/05/2010 08:08

mspotato
can you watch it on your computer?

mspotatochip · 07/05/2010 08:07

have lost track due to two poorly kiddies Its going to be a long long day..........How do i persuade dd that News is better than beeebies!?