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Reasons *not* to vote conservative today

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RosaMolesworthemburg · 06/05/2010 00:11

What the tories say and what they really mean

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ChocolateMoose · 06/05/2010 08:38

"until the pips squeak"? Can't remember who said that but I seem to remember learning about it in our school History lessons - hardly a current Labour politician.

I won't vote Tory because
a. they believe that lower taxes for those who are successful and prosperous is more important than spending to protect the welfare of those who start off disadvantaged in life.
b. their candidates ranked climate change 19th out of a list of 19 important issues. Try explaining that to our children in 30 years time when it's too late to un-screw up our planet.

claig · 06/05/2010 08:34

MrsVidic, spot on, changing the voting system is vital, but I just don't believe it will happen unfortunately

MrsVidic · 06/05/2010 08:32

they wont reform the election process- I hate the system we have atm which ,eans sme votes are worth more than others- I was going to vote tory but I can not for this reason (my vote means sod all in this tory consituancy

claig · 06/05/2010 08:30

if you want the country to sink into poverty, becuase that's the way they like it, it makes you dependent and gives them the control they crave, vote Labour

if you want to have obstacles in your path to stop you succeeding, vote Labour

if you want to be taxed to the eyeballs, or as they so cheerily say "until the pips squeak", vote Labour

if you want to see your hard-earned money blown on hairbrain schemes, vote Labour

if you want to carry on paying the £200,000 salaries and the pensions of an army of jobsworths, vote Labour

if you want to live in a country full of petty rules and regulations, vote Labour

if you want your politicians to ignore your concerns, and to call you a bigot, vote Labour

if you like being fined for putting your bin out on the wrong day, vote Labour

On the other hand, if you're not keen on the above, would prefer a brighter future, believe that there is light at the end of the tunnel, then there's only one choice, vote conservative.

sungirltan · 06/05/2010 08:08

rosamoles - thanks for the paper - you have made my mind up for me.

peppapighastakenovermylife · 06/05/2010 08:07

'tell me, would a Tory Gov't had let the banks fail?'

Um, its a worldwide recession if no one has noticed?

swallowedAfly · 06/05/2010 08:03

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foxytocin · 06/05/2010 08:02

Reposting this response for Abr1de and others who will still come along and fail to address the main reasons for the debt crisis:

it is bailing out the banks that is breaking our balls. not looking after our children.

oh, and paying the bill for a little war in Iraq

tell me, would a Tory Gov't had let the banks fail?

we already know that Blair could only wage his war with Tory support.

(see article by Johann Hari below about why I commented about paying for looking after the kids)

abr1de · 06/05/2010 07:55

'That to stay out of goal in 2030 they have to feel secure, at home and at school, now.

These things are worth getting into debt for.'

Getting into debt isn't just like running up a heavy credit card bill for one month. Eventually you (the nation) end up paying more and more interest on debts as other countries decide that you can't have a high credit rating (AAA) because you owe too much. So, each year there's less to pay for services and more to pay to the international financial community. Is that really what you want? You're taking now and leaving your children to pay back. And possibly your grandchildren.

None of the parties have been honest about the severity of our problem but the TOries have come nearest to doing so. So I'm voting for them.

scaryteacher · 06/05/2010 07:48

It was the Tories who introduced Family Credit in the mid 80s,so started the ball rolling, and also who introduced independent taxation of married women, so we were no longer chattels of our husbands.

I will be voting Tory.

CwtchyMama · 06/05/2010 07:43

Well i am voting cons & i bloody cant wait to get there & mark my X.

I hope they win with a majority too.

foxytocin · 06/05/2010 07:43

Dad2Cariad: you are not to be canvassing on the messageboard. I have reported your post.

tartyhighheels · 06/05/2010 07:37

i will never ever vote tory no matter how they rebrand themselves their ethos is all wrong

swallowedAfly · 06/05/2010 07:22

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CaptainNancy · 06/05/2010 06:44

Foxy- gaol/goal gaffe made me laugh/doubletake.

BessieBoots · 06/05/2010 06:23

Oooooh love the name Dad2Cariad... I have 2 gariad bach myself!

I know I'll be accused of looking back too much here, but I will never vote Tory after Thatcher's legacy. I can remember people going from house to house when I was a child, looking for food donations to send to the miners... She would have let them starve. So as long as they go on without offering an apology, I won't even consider them.

(Hate that Brown brown-nosed her too btw.)

Dad2Cariad · 06/05/2010 06:16

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foxytocin · 06/05/2010 02:34

it is bailing out the banks that is breaking our balls. not looking after our children.

oh, and paying the bill for a little war in Iraq

tell me, would a Tory Gov't had let the banks fail?

we already know that Blair could only wage his war with Tory support.

(see article by Johann Hari below about why I commented about paying for looking after the kids)

longfingernailspaintedblue · 06/05/2010 02:23

Worth getting into debt for??

How exactly are we going to pay off that debt - not to mention the massive bill for interest. Already we pay more in interest than we do for schools.

foxytocin · 06/05/2010 02:03

People forget that in order to have Olympic medals in 2024, children today have to be running in parks now.

That to stay out of goal in 2030 they have to feel secure, at home and at school, now.

These things are worth getting into debt for.

The Conservatives won't pay for that. They expect volunteers to do it.

More equal societies almost always do better.

wubblybubbly · 06/05/2010 01:50

That link sent shivers down my spine. Keep up the good work

Molesworth · 06/05/2010 01:28

See?!

RosaMolesworthemburg · 06/05/2010 01:26

Oh ffs, now I'm a troll. I've been here since 2002: this is my election namechange, you fool!

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SomeGuy · 06/05/2010 01:24

Right OP, so your first post was yesterday, and your link is to a Labour party website, and you follow that up with further Labour propaganda.

Sorry, but it's dull and it's over. Labour lost the election on 27 June 2007.

RosaMolesworthemburg · 06/05/2010 01:11

oh and RIP John Smith: he was a great bloke.

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