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Lefties: What are you going to do on May 7 if the Tories get in?

102 replies

allegrageller · 03/05/2010 11:32

because I think I am going to organise a mass black-clad march of teachers, nurses, mental health workers and all other good low-paid people of this earth to Downing Street chanting 'we who are about to be sacked salute you'

either that or I shall just follow my original plan as per the depressed lefties thread which was to tar and feather myself and go around the streets of SE London in a cart with a bell shouting 'bring out your dead public sector workers'.

Which do you prefer? Any ideas of your own?

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allegrageller · 03/05/2010 18:06

get off your soapbox Coolfonz. This thread, if you read it, is not actually about anyone defending the war. I marched against it and was ignored. Bush and Blair were indeed murderous fanatics.

This need not mean that I welcome the Tories in- far from it.

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Coolfonz · 03/05/2010 17:55

"We are saved from terrorist threat on a daily basis by our government"

I don't know what to say to nonsense like that. Apart from were you around when the IRA were active?

Afghanistan? Fighting for what? Spell it out. The problems in Afghanistan, including the former allies on the religious right, are multi-generational and cannot be solved by arms. You don't like what is the Taliban? What about Saudi Arabia? You don't care about Saudi Arabia, what about Burma? You don't care about Burma, what about the slaughter of 250,000 Chechens by Russia...it goes on...

The UK army isn't in Afghanistan to do anything other than project western power into the region. It's about controlling central Asia for western interests.

Iraq: even, and i say even, if the politicians genuinely believed the info they had (and they did not the Bush admin wanted to invade Iraq whatever happened) making a mistake is still a crime. If you see a man in the street and you think he has a gun, you beat him to death, he doesn't have a gun, then saying "i did what i thought was right" is not a defence. It is an admission of guilt.

queenoftheslatterns · 03/05/2010 17:36

coolfonz, i have two brothers who have fought in Afghanistan. they have seen their friends killed. one of dh's friends nearly lost half his face thanks to a roadside bomb. every one of them would go back. they say that we need to be out there. I'm more inclined to believe them than someone safe in front of their computer spewing bile. as allegrageller says, remember the falklands? maggies "close relationship" with Bush snr? the constant threat of cold war?

and in answer to the op, cry. a lot.

gingercat12 · 03/05/2010 17:24

I'll be visitng my parents. But we agreed with DH, that if a miracle happens (not a chance) and the Tories do not win, we will leave DS with parents and get really drunk.
I do not even remember the last time we drank more than a (very small) glass of wine, so it would not take much.

AuntieMaggie · 03/05/2010 17:24

spot on allegrageller...

because Coolfinz you obviously have seen all the info that Blair and Bush did and know their decision inside out... NOBODY can definitively say that they wouldn't have done the same becasue NOBODY will ever be in that situation again

we are saved from terrorist threat on a daily basis by our government thanks to the country we live in

allegrageller · 03/05/2010 17:08

Well, your bizarre comments make me sick, Coolfonz. Because Thatcher would never have participated in the slaughter of the innocent, would she- oh, errrr, what was that skirmish in the 80s? And you really can't see Cameron toadying up to Bush if he'd been in Blair's place, can you...nah.

They're all the same except some are worse than others...and we are getting the worst coming right now. Hope you enjoy it.

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Coolfonz · 03/05/2010 17:03

Fucking right wingers masquerading as lefties. Make me sick, sorry.

You people are a huge problem in this country. Gatekeepers, just another arm of the state.

The Labour party were part of a huge slaughter of innocent people. Women, kids. As parents you might spare a thought for the dead kids in Iraq and Afghanistan, at least. Or are they just mangled flesh? Make up for it by re-using your shopping bags at Asda do you?

Saying it was a mistake is just an admission of guilt in legal terms.

But the UK doesn't really do law, it does power.

If Milosevic had participated in a war that killed 1.5mn people...oh hold on...

Chaotica · 03/05/2010 17:03

I'll cry, get drunk and then reprint the old poster from the last years of tory hell:

If the tories get up your nose - picket.

(It used to appeal to me when I was on demonstrations as a kid in the 1980s.)

Bucharest · 03/05/2010 17:01

Cry a little, then start rereading "Things Can Only Get Better" (again)

Policywonk- that's lovely about your Mum.

Molesworth · 03/05/2010 16:56

Coolfonz, I hear you re: the war. It was wrong, wrong, wrong, I know. I don't think any of us here would disagree with that

smallishsheep · 03/05/2010 16:54

pakis. Nice.
Crawl back under your rock

Coolfonz · 03/05/2010 16:53

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policywonk · 03/05/2010 16:40

Go to see the new Chris Morris film and try to have a laugh.

Also (pomposity alert) get more involved in on-the-ground politics in my constituency. After the 1987 election, my mother stopped herself from going insane with rage by joining the CAB as an advice worker; she worked off all her anti-Tory fury over the ensuing ten years by giving stupendously good advice to every benefits claimant and migrant she saw. And do you know, I think she really did make a difference.

smallishsheep · 03/05/2010 16:33

read a few more

smallishsheep · 03/05/2010 16:33

Coolfonz, may I suggest you watch a bit less Happy Days and a few more history books? What a ludicrous comment

unfitmother · 03/05/2010 16:32

I'll drown my sorrows

Coolfonz · 03/05/2010 16:29

I'm going to feel sorry that the Labour cabinet will almost certainly escape prosecution, for the most terrible atrocities committed by a British government since the 1930's.

smallishsheep · 03/05/2010 15:48

Go and hand out sticks for them to beat me with (am a single parent on benefits)

sarah293 · 03/05/2010 15:47

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TheButterflyParty · 03/05/2010 15:39

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jenny60 · 03/05/2010 15:36

Cry, drink and then get ready to say 'I told you so'. Labour will re-group, the Tories will fail and it will all be up for grabs again before we know it. Not much consolation for the people who lose their jobs while we wait I know

Hassled · 03/05/2010 15:25

I'm going to sob inconsolably. And yes, I don't think I'll be able to bear the smuggery.

salizchap · 03/05/2010 15:25

I will panic and cry and stress all night about my job, (i'm a teaching assistant=public sector empoyee), about trying to make ends meet, about how much harder the tories will make it when they freeze our pay/cut our jobs, and god knows what they'll cook up with tax credits. I will probably need a few drinks just to get off to sleep.

serenity · 03/05/2010 15:20

Cry. A lot. Election day is my birthday too, which is just sucky (DH will be off running his polling station, so won't see him all day anyway and he'll be back really late, so I'll be sitting at home on my own watching the results come in)

duckyfuzz · 03/05/2010 15:16

cry, like many on here we both work in public sector and from sept I am on fixed term post with LA

on the other hand I also do some consultancy for new build schools, so may manage a weak at the prospect of 100s of naive parents wanting to set up their own schools