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Tax Credits = benefit-dependent society?

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Chil1234 · 03/05/2010 08:08

Seems that the scariest thing facing many people on these boards about getting rid of the Labour government would be the prospect of a drop in tax credits and other benefits.

Being cynical, I'm now wondering if Labour didn't deliberately engineer the way tax credits work not solely to help those in genuine need but also so that the maximum number of people receive a portion of their income from the state. If it wasn't in part to create a culture of dependency and entitlement why else set the ceiling for receipt up as high as £50k?

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ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:24

You are all welcome to come and live with me in my new house, just as soon as the deal goes through.

You will all have to give me a hand redecorating though.

I've derailed this thread haven't I, sorry

ooojimaflip · 04/05/2010 11:24

That's a mortgage of about a million pounds at 4% over 25 years. Round here you could easily spend that on what would have been considered a normal family home 20 years ago. So give Mumblechum a break after all, properly rich people don't NEED mortgatges ;)

foureleven · 04/05/2010 11:23

What is this first hand experience though?! My daughters in care 8 - 6... im wondering if after 2 extra hours she would turn in to a timid recluse..?

Oh lets have a fight about who works harder shall we; run a business, work 9 hours a day, Plus around 2 more most evenings when daughters in bed.

Oh but you do a degree for 'fun' do you. Well you are right thats just the same as work.

So you CHOOSE to have 4 days a week (2 days off and 2 days at the weekend) with your child at home so that you can give them (in your opinion) the best care, then you CHOOSE to do a degree to better yourself..

The problem is with todays attitude compared to the attitudes of maybe our grandparents generation is that back then you had your family, and you were responsible foe supporting them. End of. There was none of this, oh I want to do a degree to expand my mind and better myself so ill work less to give myself the time to do it. Or, Im a single parent so i'll work part time and the state will cover the cost.

Obviously it wasnt perfect and benefits are a great thing when used correctly i.e. to support carers, the elderly, the disabled. But too many people think they have all these rights to not work and care for their children at home etc etc at the expense of everyone else.

mumutd · 04/05/2010 11:23

BTW, I've never been described as a dingdong before .

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:23

Rich people need houses like that, mumutd!

So that us plebs can push our noses up at the gates when we go past, and doff our hats if we see anyone...

expatinscotland · 04/05/2010 11:23

Can I come live with you, ISNT?

We'll pay rent and with the size of that place, trust me, you won't even know we're there.

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:22

The mortgage will be £46K a month though...

mumblechum · 04/05/2010 11:22

That Hertfordshire one is lovely but waaaay too much white. Nice little fishpond tho'

mumutd · 04/05/2010 11:20

ISNT, who on earth needs a house like that?. If you can afford it then go for it, but you then can't complain about the cost of its upkeep

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:20

I am thinking of moving here what does everyone think?

mumblechum · 04/05/2010 11:19

CHILDCARE SPAT!!!!!!

ARGUE ARGUE ARGUE!!!!!!!!!

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:19

Yes I can't be arsed with SAH/WOH dingdongs.

Far more interesting to talk about houses

ooojimaflip · 04/05/2010 11:18

Mumblechum - If you can't afford the heating bills then I worry you are falling into fuel poverty. I urge you to get help asap. Maybe you could downsize or get a grant to improve the insulation in your house?

mumutd · 04/05/2010 11:17

My mortgage payments are £6.5K pa, so either I live in a tent or you live in a stately mansion

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:17

Is it anything like my house?

FioFio · 04/05/2010 11:17

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lou031205 · 04/05/2010 11:17

That's still £71,000 more than us after housing costs, Mumblechum

mumblechum · 04/05/2010 11:15

Ok you lot I've overshared on this thread.

Can you all please concentrate on the spat about putting kids in childcare.

Thankee.

expatinscotland · 04/05/2010 11:14

'I know. I'm farking freezing. £60k pa mortgage payments don't help. '

Well, maybe you should just 'work harder' or downsize.

mumutd · 04/05/2010 11:14

OMG, what kind of house do you live in ??? Or are you joking

thesouthsbelle · 04/05/2010 11:13

children who have been in childcare from 7am until 7pm!

you have your opinion I have mine. I work bloody hard to juggle everything around as do most single parents - and hey ho also doing a maths OU degree as well just for fun but I guess that doesn't matter thou does it cos I only work PT so you saying i'm not working as hard as I can do quite frankly I find just as ignorant.

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:13

Did you get the heating on in the end?

I also think you should be able to put the heating on.

lou031205 · 04/05/2010 11:13

Ok, you are right. You didn't ask for sympathy.

mumblechum · 04/05/2010 11:13

I know. I'm farking freezing. £60k pa mortgage payments don't help.

ImSoNotTelling · 04/05/2010 11:12

Maybe you could burn some fifty pound notes?

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