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I can't tell you how much I hope the Conservatives win the election.

409 replies

AntoinetteOuradi · 02/05/2010 20:58

Just had to get that off my chest.

Please come and join me if you feel the same, and then I can stop annoying myself (and others) by hijacking the anti-Tory threads.

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LadyBlaBlah · 05/05/2010 20:12

I see this thread is still spouting the same old Tory guff

Anyhow I cheered myself up today by beeping the horn at the local Tory candidate as he ponced down the road and shouting boooooooo

And telling my neighbour they were lowering the tone of the neighbourhood as they hammered in their Tory sign

Its the small things in life that count

abdnhiker · 05/05/2010 19:57

I read the article and all the comments on the thread devoted to it - I don't have anything more to add and if I did, I'd write it there. Yes, it's not an acceptable situation if it's true - but I feel the same way about our local Lib Dem council who've been an absolute disaster and spent all our council tax on a new office instead of services. What I am voting for is to reduce the deficit. I'm scared that if we don't do that properly and take the hard times now, in a generation we'll all be in far worse shape and the wonderful services we have (like the NHS) will be reduced to bare bones. This is a serious fear for me...

AntoinetteOuradi · 05/05/2010 19:56

Sorry - am suffering from lack of time. Will see if I can offer anything re H&F before tomorrow!

Thanks, lemonmuffin.

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skihorse · 05/05/2010 19:55

Beachcomber- I'm afraid I haven't read your article - but have you had a chance to think about how to keep on spending at the rate the Labour government have been?

Beachcomber · 05/05/2010 19:48

Last call for anyone who will engage with me on Hammersmith and Fulham.

I really don't mean this as a hijack by a leftie, I just thought it might be interesting to have a Conservative supporting point of view so came here where I knew some of you are. I just wanted to listen to your views on this council that's all.

lemonmuffin · 05/05/2010 19:46

Totally agree Antoinetteouradi, thanks for starting this thread btw, a little oasis of sanity amid all the leftist handwringing

ItsGrimUpNorth · 05/05/2010 19:24

And, if the Tories don't get us out of the financial schtuck, will it be a case of, "Well, Labour mucked it up for so many years, we just can't sort it out," for the next four generations?

I very much doubt Cameron and Osbourne (shudder! there goes the man of zero experience. Even the City is worried about that particular CoE) would have been half as pro active in bailing out the banks and then where would we be?

Their laissez-faire devotion to the markets terrifies me.

And the Big Society rubbish. Ha ha ha ha. Talk about passing the buck. You live in a sink estate and can't make any money? Well, that's just your fault, isn't it? Do you Tory voters really believe that crapola?

I really really really wish we had someone decent to vote for. There is nobody. I don't know what to do tomorrow. I must vote though.

antoinettechigur · 05/05/2010 19:20

sorry that was mainly for my semi-namesake

antoinettechigur · 05/05/2010 19:19

Well to non-Tories it is a rathe4r provocative title, even if not meant to be so.

Politics invites debate, I guess that is why you have been on a range of threads previously?

Couple more Tory badge suggestions:

"Fuck the poor"

and

"I'm alright Jack".

Anyway, enjoy tomorrow and the next few years.

skihorse · 05/05/2010 19:18

I'm not sure I'll be "glad" antoinette - the country/economy is so unbelievably fucked that of course cuts will need to be made. Unfortunately the bloody idiots who cannot see this will say that the Tories were out to ruin their lives and we'll have to listen to the same old crap for the next 20 years. None so blind as those who cannot see of course.

I just cannot understand how so many just don't understand the position we're in. Free money, free money, come and get yer free money!

AntoinetteOuradi · 05/05/2010 19:11

Why has this thread been so comprehensively hijacked by anti-Tories?

I started it so that we could have somewhere to go where we weren't bothering the lefties (I have, as you lefties might notice, left your threads alone since starting this one).

I take my hat off to the valiant posters on here who are keeping our end up in the face of prejudice and, sometimes, downright nastiness.

Skihorse, I could wear any of your badges!

All I can add now is that if the Conservatives do win, I will not be gloating. I will just be utterly, unspeakably, quietly glad.

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b4real · 05/05/2010 18:58

I hope the Tories win, and if they do, I'll be raising a glass or two.

WilfSell · 05/05/2010 18:39

bruffin,

Nope. I'm complaining about other people losing their tax credits and Surestart centres actually.

That's the key ideological difference, as people keep pointing out.

ZephirineDrouhin · 05/05/2010 18:25

Apparently not. Well I guess that's another "fuck the poor" from the Tories then.

Beachcomber · 05/05/2010 18:22

No takers for commenting on the Conservative flagship council of Hammersmith and Fulham then?

Go on I hoped somebody would have something to say that would reassure me.

skihorse · 05/05/2010 18:16

abdnhiker You could also get badges from the same range which read:

"I'm voting Tory because I understand the credit card is maxed and the UK cannot borrow any more".

OR

"Where the fuck do you get the idea that people who support Conservative beliefs hate people?"

OR

"I'm voting Tory because I'm not living in cloud cuckoo land."

OR

"I just want people to start taking responsibility for themselves." (no party name mentioned - maybe a logo of someone throwing their hands up in the air and rolling their eyes? )

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 17:53

Um, I don't need to see it. I wrote it.

Attitude of 'don't like it, off you go' still prevails.

abdnhiker · 05/05/2010 17:51

I'm sure you do expat, but see your 17:14 comment.

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 17:50

'expat N. America includes Canada too which is far more socialist than the United States.'

Um, yes, I know that. I'm from America originally. There are also many Canadians on this board.

SanctiMoanyArse · 05/05/2010 17:49

If lots of people emigrate th jobs shortage is sorted anyway

Excellent

If you're heading off from S E Wales and have a frad job in school hours I will chuck a tenner in the pot

abdnhiker · 05/05/2010 17:46

tiredemma Can I get a badge? "I'm voting Tory which will not help me personally but I think will help the country get out of so much debt?" Because not all of us are voting Tory for ourselves and it's a bit of an insulting simplification to say so.

abdnhiker · 05/05/2010 17:44

expat N. America includes Canada too which is far more socialist than the United States. I grew up in Canada where there is the equivalent of the NHS, where there is a strong state to help people, and where poverty levels are, I believe, better. Funny thing is that Canada doesn't run a deficit when times are good. We can be fiscally and morally responsible at the same time.

I love it here (we're in scotland too) and even though the cost of living is high and our jobs are uncertain, we're not planning on leaving regardless of who gets into power. We're here to stick it out.

And I'm voting conservative - which will financially hurt us as a family (Lib Dems have by far the best policy for us and for anyone in the tax bracket between £50-100K) but I believe we can't keep going with this level of spending. I am prepared to pay more personally in taxes (as long as we stay employed) to help those who need it, but I don't support Labour's spending policies (including child trust fund, child benefit for families like mine etc).

bruffin · 05/05/2010 17:28

As opposed to the majority of Labour voters who vote Labour because they believe they will make life better for the majority of people in our society"

Most of the labour voters on here are complaining about losing their tax credits/sure start etc.

expatinscotland · 05/05/2010 17:14

'Although I would hate to emigrate I fear alot of hardworking people may well just do that if Conservatives don't get in.'

Because no one else really works hard, do they?

And LMAO at all these people threatening to move overseas.

Bye, then! Especially if you go to N. America, you'll fit right in because the prevailing attitude is that if you don't like a place, then get out.

It's an empty threat there, 'Well, if you don't do what we want, we'll emmigrate.' Try that on over there! Haahaaa. You'll get 'Don't let the door hit you on the way out!'

How arrogant to ever assume you can't be replaced by someone else just as good if not better.

tiredemma · 05/05/2010 17:07

This comment by Jackiepaper on Sunday has helped me (finally) make my decision about who I plan to vote for tomorrow.

"Just about sums up Tory voters really. The attitude of 'I'm voting tory because they will make my life better for me.' As opposed to the majority of Labour voters who vote Labour because they believe they will make life better for the majority of people in our society"