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Does Sheffield Hallam MP, Clegg, wear clogs or does he prefer Ferragamo, is he one of the peeps?

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claig · 24/04/2010 08:17

The pesky Daily Mail continues the expose
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1268436/Some-ordinary-northerner-How-Nick-Clegg-really-man-extraord inary-privilege-family-chateau.html

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claig · 24/04/2010 10:41

Yes Cameron was poor in the debates. There must be countless people who could do a better job. Labour's record is there for the taking, and Cameron is not pressing any good points home. I think he is being advised what to do and like all of them he follows the advice that he is given. I think the Conservatives could easily win the election if they tried, but I don't think they are trying, I think that they may see a hung parliament as desirable. This is probably due to the horrific cuts and changes that the next government will have to implement to get us out of the disaster that Labour landed us in. Nobody wants to take responsibility and the blame for what is to come, all the parties prefer to be under the same umbrella. I wouldn't be surprised if we still see the spectre of Gordon Brown's rictus grin as he participates in some sort of coalition government after election day, continuing to bang on about the need for a global consensus to solve the world's problems.

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herbietea · 24/04/2010 10:40

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policywonk · 24/04/2010 10:40

Agree Camppbell was an enthusiastic smearer. Coulson is doing exactly the same thing though.

Dacre is apparently conflicted: likes Brown (v good mates with him personally), dislikes Cameron quite fiercely, terrified by Clegg. So is basically in a permanent crouch position.

ahundredtimes · 24/04/2010 10:35

Yes, I agree Atlantis! Also the whole 'Clegg is a foreigner' thing too. Makes them look a bit behind the times and narrow etc - surely Cameron doesn't want people thinking he thinks like that etc? Maybe he does. I don't know.

Was interested in how Brown's worm - the worms are AWFUL aren't they? - swung upwards when he said how proud he was that Britain had become a more tolerant country etc.

atlantis · 24/04/2010 10:34

" via Andy Coulson, who is smearing sweaty excrement far and wide."

Oh come on PW nobody, but nobody can ever be as bad as Campbell, that man is like a cesspit with mandelson coming a very close second.

ahundredtimes · 24/04/2010 10:32

Yes claig, I agree about Cameron - I thought he was much better in the last tv debate, but he missed some open goals.

He seems to have been winded by the Clegg effect doesn't he? Like he isn't sure how to be - thought he spoke much more to the Conservative base rather than the centre ground though too? Did you?

I wonder whether it is that they see a hung parliament as inevitable?

atlantis · 24/04/2010 10:30

"Oh yes I see Atlantis. Still they must be wishing they'd stop don't you think? It backfiring quite badly - telling Mail readers that actually Clegg is a quite posh and little bit conservative??"

I'm sure they do, a lot of mail stories have backfired for the conservatives and then they really laid into the conservatives over the expenses thing, so I think the mail is a little psycho to be honest, it knows it has a mainly conservative readership and yet it still likes having a dig at them.

claig · 24/04/2010 10:29

"It's backfiring quite badly - telling Mail readers that actually Clegg is a quite posh and little bit conservative??"

it depends what they really want. It's beginning to look like they want a hung parliament. Even Cameron seems to be participating by failing to score open goals.

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policywonk · 24/04/2010 10:28

I think the press smears have quite a lot to do with CPHQ, via Andy Coulson, who is smearing sweaty excrement far and wide. Worried for your job, Andy? Feeling that you've made a dreadful balls-up of everything?

ahundredtimes · 24/04/2010 10:21

Oh yes I see Atlantis. Still they must be wishing they'd stop don't you think? It backfiring quite badly - telling Mail readers that actually Clegg is a quite posh and little bit conservative??

Agree re the Guardian etc. Must admit, I've never been particularly bothered by where Cameron went to school.

atlantis · 24/04/2010 10:18

"This REALLY doesn't work does it. Why don't Conservative HQ see that?"

I don't think it's anything to do with CHQ, the mail and their ilk are just catering to their audience, most mail readers will vote Conservative anyway and labour read the mirror and the guardian (which are both doing the same thing to the tories I might add).

I forgot to add that I still like Hague (mr peek too soon ) I think he would make a great PM.

bruxeur · 24/04/2010 10:17

Get out of the way, 100x, claig needs some Rx.

bruxeur · 24/04/2010 10:16

I think it's medication time, children.

ahundredtimes · 24/04/2010 10:14

This REALLY doesn't work does it. Why don't Conservative HQ see that?

Clegg is like Cameron. Oh? Yes, so, erm, don't vote for him.

Clegg is like Blair. Oh is he? Not some inexperienced nobody then? Well, erm I'm saying this because I don't want you to vote for him. You are?

Jeez. They're making him safe and pushing him into the open arms of people of all sorts of political persuasion. Certainly me, Mrs ideologically adrift centre ground.

It's a really odd tactic.

claig · 24/04/2010 10:11

I'm not an enthusiastic Tory, I just think they are far better for the working people of this country than Labour. I'm not too bothered who wins. I think we'll find out that Clegg is really 'Lord Snooty', the same as Cameron and Lynton Blair. Nothing much will change whoever gets in, the stirling enthusiastic work that Clegg did as part of Leon Brittain's private office, will continue regardless, except Clegg will interject a few more 'eeh bah gooms' to fool the peeps. I have nothing against toffs like Annuziata Rees-Mogg, since they don't hide their background, unlike Clegg, who claims to be what he is not.

It's just interesting that John Major rose to leadership of the Tory party and became Prime Minister, regardless of his background. The Tory party is a meritocracy, and toffs have to compete, unlike the Labour and Liberal parties which are stuffed full of the privileged Oxbridge elite pretending that they support the Geordies' Newcastle United and the Yorkshire working class with their 'away the lads' and 'eeh bah gooms'.

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JackBauer · 24/04/2010 10:05

Stop pw, my poor heart can't take the strain.

atlantis · 24/04/2010 10:01

"David Davis, who lost out to Cameron, in the Tory leadership contest, is from good working-class stock."

I wanted DD to win the leadership contest, I thought him a 'good' guy, but then he pulled that stupid stunt and got into bed (not literally I hope ) with that woman from liberty (sorry never had any respect for them since the old days when they had PIE in their midst during HH time) Shami Chakrabarti and ruined a promising career.

"worlds apart from the silver-spooned Clegg and Lynton Blair."

I thought I was the only one to see comparrisons between Clegg and Blair.

Give me Cameron any day of the week, he doesn't try to hide his upbringing, although like Clegg, Blair and Brown he is his also a 'career' polititian.

Clegg a northerner ? Oh dear whatever next?

LeninGrad · 24/04/2010 09:58

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policywonk · 24/04/2010 09:56

Anyway, don't worry. I'll stop soon, because the Tories have hardly any MPs at all north of Gainsborough. Hang on Sooty, what's that you say? It's because they're the party of affluent southerners? Really?

policywonk · 24/04/2010 09:53

Oh Claig, listen to yourself. What does your strangulated 'MPs must be working class' argument have to say about Cameron?

I understand that it's not much fun being a Tory at the moment but you're going to have to do better than this.

policywonk · 24/04/2010 09:52

Ben Wallace, Tory MP for Lancaster and Wyre and PPC for Wyre and Preston North, 'was born in the London Borough of Bromley at Farnborough and educated at Millfield School. He attended the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst, and served in the Scots Guards from 1991-8, serving in Northern Ireland and Central America. After leaving the army, he became a Conservative Member of the Scottish Parliament as a list MSP for North East Scotland.'

Well, This Will Not Stand.

claig · 24/04/2010 09:47

David Davis, who lost out to Cameron, in the Tory leadership contest, is from good working-class stock. He was brought up on a tough London council estate by his single-parent mum. He was a working-class grammar-school boy who succeeded by hard graft. John Major was the same, left school at 16, and became Prime Minister. They are the real deal, know how the peeps really live, worlds apart from the silver-spooned Clegg and Lynton Blair.

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policywonk · 24/04/2010 09:46

Nigel Evans, Tory MP for the Ribble Valley, is... WELSH! He's only fucking WELSH!

abride · 24/04/2010 09:45

I wonder if Clegg says eeh bah goom when he visits the family chateau in France.

policywonk · 24/04/2010 09:41

claig, this story is unutterable horseshit and you know it.