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Oh hell no- what NC said about WW2

93 replies

atlantis · 22/04/2010 00:33

Yes, it's true i'm a conservative voter at this election.

Yes, it's true I've done a little NC bashing because I don't believe in some of his parties policies and his holier than thou image he's trying to convey.

But hell NO , if this article is true this man had better not come to my local area because if I see him on the street I'll do more than egg him..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267921/GENERAL-ELECTION-2010-Nick-Clegg-Nazi-slur-Britain.html

"Nick Clegg has claimed that the British people have ?a more insidious cross to bear? than Germany over the Second World War.
In an astonishing attack on our national pride, the Liberal Democrat leader said we suffered from ?delusions of grandeur? and a ?misplaced sense of superiority? over having defeated the horrors of Nazism.
He said we found it hard to accept that Germany had become a ?vastly more prosperous nation? and that ?we need to be put back in our place?.
His views, outlined in a newspaper article when he was a member of the European Parliament...

The passionately pro-Europe Mr Clegg revealed his views in an article for the Guardian newspaper in 2002.

?Watching Germany rise from its knees after the war and become a vastly more prosperous nation has not been easy on the febrile British psyche,? Mr Clegg wrote, before attacking Britain?s approach to the war.

?All nations have a cross to bear, and none more so than Germany with its memories of Nazism. But the British cross is more insidious still.
?A misplaced sense of superiority, sustained by delusions of grandeur and a tenacious obsession with the last war, is much harder to shake off. We need to be put back in our place.?

I wholeheartedly agree with this;

"Tory MP Nicholas Soames, grandson of wartime leader Sir Winston Churchill, said: ?These views will disgust people the length and breadth of the country. They show that Nick Clegg is unfit to lead his party, let alone the country.
?They are an insult to the memory of Britain?s war dead and to a time when the British public all pulled together for the common good.

'They prove that Mr Clegg shares the European view of Britain rather than the British view.?

I am disgusted. This isn't a case of NC bashing, his views are clear, it's revolting.

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ShowOfHands · 22/04/2010 15:40

sophable, the anti troll. With her common sense approach and considered contributions, she seeks less to inflame and dissemble, more to explain and discuss.

atlantis, when you say you'll do more than egg him, pray, what do you mean?

midnightexpress · 22/04/2010 15:36

Sophable, I expect this is why you were uninvited to the party - MNHQ realised that you are in fact a troll.

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:31

note missing apostrophe in my post!

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:31

everyone gets their spelling pulled apart here...there is a pendants corner topic!

i am a big spelling offender fwiw, and people hate that i don't capitalise! and overuse dots...

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:30

clearly atlantis you're voting exactly according to how rupert murdoch wants you to!

ShadeofViolet · 22/04/2010 15:29

Much as I dont agre with what Atlantis says, there is no need to pull apart her spelling.

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 22/04/2010 15:29

Oh yes, that reoccuring troll sophable. Don't you hate it whenshe comes trolling, with her common sense, intelligent answers new lib dem tactic- lurking then trolling on mn Tory threads there are few here now...

The daily mail paranoia is palpable Atlantis we're just harmless lefties, long standing mn members!

atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:27

"pmsl at me as a troll...i've been here for 5 years my dear."

Very forgettable then?

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atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:25

""Your one of the trolls".

You're. "

Yes, yes am dyslexic as many already know, God do I have to explain everytime I post.

I'm sure if I went through all your (you're) posts there would be plenty of errors.

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atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:23

"atlantis, aren't you a tiny weeny bit sheepish to have been suckered by a DAILY MAIL article quoting someone out of context and using nick soames (heaven help us) as a stick to beat him with???? "

No. I did say at the start of this if the quotes were accurate and I note that they are, even if they have been taken out of context, his words are still his words and I don't agree with them.

I'm not in favour of the eu as it is now, you can cooperate with european countries and trade without being ruled by them.

I think what Clegg has said about this country and it's people shows where his true allegiances lie and that's with a United States of Europe run by Germany and France.

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Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:22

coolfonz, didn't you clock that extremely right wing troll that has recently appeared (can't remember his name) sayhing that spelling didn't matter????

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:21

lol.

i must be a troll as I support the libdems ergo...

Coolfonz · 22/04/2010 15:20

"Your one of the trolls".

You're.

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:14

atlantis, aren't you a tiny weeny bit sheepish to have been suckered by a DAILY MAIL article quoting someone out of context and using nick soames (heaven help us) as a stick to beat him with????

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:11

pmsl at me as a troll...i've been here for 5 years my dear.

am glad you're back...any response to the FULL article?

morningpaper · 22/04/2010 15:10

He made this comment in 2002 btw

It is not exactly Lib Dem policy to take the country down a peg

atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:09

"so interesting to note that atlantis has disappeared (up own ar....)?"

It's called working for a living thanks.

Why get personnal?

Your one of the trolls thats popped up, so smell what your shovelling.

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Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 14:15

so interesting to note that atlantis has disappeared (up own ar....)?

to my knowledge nick clegg has never been sneering about britain. the point being that he doesn't seem to be a sneering type of man!

vesela · 22/04/2010 14:08

yes, there's a good quote somewhere about how insulting he thinks it is to the people of Britain to describe them as "broken" - obviously the DM isn't going to print that!

ELCSadvice · 22/04/2010 14:07

(first line should be anyhthing NC has ever said on this subject!)

ELCSadvice · 22/04/2010 14:06

I don't disagree with anything Nick Clegg has ever said.

Personally find it vile to hear people chanting "two world wars and one world cup" whenever England plays Germany.

That chant, IMO, is more disrespectful to WW2 veterans than anything Nick Clegg has ever said.

SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 22/04/2010 14:06

isn't he brillient policywonk! I LOVE that he is a politician we can be proud of. One that doesn't bang on about broken Britain- of course, the right wing press won't say how negative THAT sounds! Bloody Tories, I have never actually feared them, as I do now.

vesela · 22/04/2010 14:03

I liked Ken Clarke till he turned into a minority of about 1 in his party!

smallwhitecat · 22/04/2010 14:02

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midnightexpress · 22/04/2010 14:01

Hurrah for NC, not pandering to outdated anti-European, xenophobic ideas. I agree with animula - racists are doing exactly the opposite of honouring their ancestors, who fought against that very thing.

A PM who can speak foreign languages fluently - now that would be a thing.