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Heres what a hung Parliament will do

469 replies

lincstash · 18/04/2010 09:42

WE have been there before, with both Wilson and Heath.

No one can rule with a minority government. Its an abortion. Nothing radical, nothing decisive can get passed into law. Nothing gets decided, no real advancement can be made, everything is fudge and a compromise.

IF we get a hung parliament, Labour will retain power (as the incumbent governments right to), completely unable to do anything decisive about the economy, and eventually, after being defeated in multiple votes government will collapse with a year, and another election will ensue. You only need a major bill such as the Finance Bill to get destroyed by the opposition, and thats thats.

Meanwhile, the militant left wing unions (UNITE and GMB) will set about ejecting Labours Blairites and Brownites from the party , (as they have promised they can and will), and whilst labour struggles along in the minority in westminster, civil war will rip the party apart as the unions seize control and force the party back to socialist far left. Policy making and decision making will cease within the government

Meanwhile, the worlds financial markets will see the political chaos, pull the plug on our credit rating and that will be it, game set an match. The economy will collapse, and the World Bank will be forced to step in, as it did with the Wilson Government. We will then be a prime target for the EU vultures to take further control of us.

THis is not speculation, this is based on previous times in our history when we have been in this position. We are the 5th largest economy because we always have had majority governments. If you want examples of what happens to countries with minority rules, look at places like Italy, Argentina, Brazil. 3rd rate counties because they cant be ruled decisively.

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ahundredtimes · 20/04/2010 14:28

No, I didn't know. I've not really run up against you much I don't think?

Thanks for answering my question though.

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 14:25

I think you already know the answer to that.

If I lived in Barking & Dagenham I would be voting BNP, not because I want NG running the country, but I think it's important to have a few far-right MP's knocking about...keeps things balanced.... because I think this, and because I have laughed at Frankie Boyle..I have been dignosed by a random internet stranger as suffering from Narcissistic personality disorder.....

Who needs the NHS...

ahundredtimes · 20/04/2010 14:15

May I ask who your first party of choice would be DP?

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 14:03

Of course it depends where you live, I live in a marginal, only 2000 (appx) votes between Liberals and Tories....that's why I'm voting Conservative....Labour only ever get about 12 votes here if they're lucky....

policywonk · 20/04/2010 13:54

'The Tories are not in government, so the same standard of conduct is not necessarily compulsory for them.' - that's plain weird. Politicans are either corrupt (very serious allegation, not much evidence of it in either party) or they're not. It's not OK to be corrupt when you're in opposition.

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 13:53

Oh aret to getting labour out

I am not voting for that at all, I amvoting for whom I want in

But a tory vote does not mean labour out, that entirely depends on where you live surelY/

Look at the link I popped in earlier at the voting spread here in Wales. In my area a Lib Dem vote is a vote for the main non labour party.

Vote tory to get labour out is absolute rot, compeltely dependent on votes where you are

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 13:51

DP I dont want half the stuff you advocate

esp right wing anything

so on that basis I would ahve to be a bit dim to vote tory, surely?I like Ed Milliband too PW but I think soem people see Labour and their brains add in red glowing eyes and forked tongues.

policywonk · 20/04/2010 13:46

And 'Smith'... who's Smith? Do you mean the dead one?

policywonk · 20/04/2010 13:45

How is Ed Miliband a rotten corrupt croney? He's squeaky clean on expenses, for a start.

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 13:39

Clarissimo...(sorry for calling you that other name...don't know where that came from)

Labour have to be defeated...they just have to, they have totally destroyed this country, and I'm just talking economically, but morally....we need to get back to a society that values hetrosexual marriage, that wont force faith schools to teach our children that homosexuality is "normal"...

Fliight · 20/04/2010 13:24

It was in response to your comment about Lincstash's last post in which he repeatedlty and without foundation accused me of being a labour voter.

I was asking you both, really, as I was really baffled by it.

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 13:21

DP am another non labour voter being blamed for the crap. And not accepting the blame. I don't like teh tory policies on amny things so won;'t vote for them, doesn't mean I don't see issues with labour eiehr. Am intelligent enough to be able to see beyond the two party illusion.

I don't thinki you'd know but had to abandon username after being (IMO) targeted by a repeat namechanger, she's not ehre so fine but if you could not use it elsewhere pelase? Ta (she sticks to specific threads and is clearly identifiable by her posting style when she appears to tell me how awful I am and my kids are genetic flaws etc)

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 13:14

What do you mean what planet am I on..?

What was that for..

Fliight · 20/04/2010 13:12

plus when someone has abandoned a user name, isn't it normally considered polite to use their new one instead?

Otherwise it's all a bit 'I know who you are' isn't it.

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 13:08

Peachy...Blair has always been a corrupt lier, do you remember anything about the F1/ and advertising saga ?....TB hadn't been in power 5 minutes when it became all too clear what he was about

Fliight · 20/04/2010 13:02

Yes, really brilliant, Daftpunk, considering I don't vote labour.
what planet are you on?

Fliight · 20/04/2010 13:01

'You turn a blind eye to the misfeasance and abuse of public office that this government's minsters and hangers on engage in. It doesnt matter to you, because its New Labour thats doing it, and you will not tolerate any criticism of the twin gods Blair and Brown'

That's all horse poo. I don't vote labour and have a feeling they are as corrupt as the tories, in their own sweet way.

'These men, along with there rotten corrupt cronies Mandelson, Balls, Milibands, Smiths, and Harman are not fit for public office. Yet you will still vote for this bunch of liars and thieves.'

No, again horse poo, I won't vote for them.

How many times to I have to say it? I vote liberal, I've pretty much always voted liberal and I'll probably continue to do so.

You're just wasted ages writing that post and sadly it's largely based on fallacy.

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 13:00

Brilliant post Lincstash..

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 13:00

I do like this you knmow

Lintash you are one person with one take on things and one set of experiences. you annot presume to know what my family need from Government as an atypical one or anyone else for that matter

you have one vote and the right to use it as you wish. Stop wanting to tell me what to dow ith mine

Fliight · 20/04/2010 12:58

I DO NOT VOTE LABOUR.!

(did you hear that?)

I'm amazed that I deserve a whole paragraph to myself, but there you go.

No morals? Lovely.

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 12:57
lincstash · 20/04/2010 12:55

no Fliight, your the one that spouts the crap. Like most labour leftwingers, the truth to you is just something you can take or leave, a variable that affects onyl other people.

You turn a blind eye to the misfeasance and abuse of public office that this government's minsters and hangers on engage in. It doesnt matter to you, because its New Labour thats doing it, and you will not tolerate any criticism of the twin gods Blair and Brown.

These men, along with there rotten corrupt cronies Mandelson, Balls, Milibands, Smiths, and Harman are not fit for public office. Yet you will still vote for this bunch of liars and thieves.

The fact you turn a blind eye to these crooks puts you in the same rotten corrupt camp, because in the end, you either part of the problem or part of the solution.

Why do you think we had gravy-training MP's - because people like you dont do anything about it, you dont punish them by voting them onto the dole queue. 40 years ago, Ministers resigned when caught doing thing that were immoral or dishonest. Not these days. Labour MP's and ministers have to be dragged kicking and screaming from office when caught with there fingers in the till.

And this is where you have totally got my take on politics wrong. All the people who are going to vote Lib Dem, keep pushing the point theres no difference between Labour and Tories, but there is. Labour are in government, and should behave in an honest, exemplary manner. The Tories are not in government, so the same standard of conduct is not necessarily compulsory for them.

Quite frankly, the policies of either party are irrelevant, because the travesty of justice of returning such rotten immoral thieves to office to carry on plundering the public purse is beyond the pale, and those that put them back in office, people like you, should hang there heads in shame at the collusion they have engaged in, the lack of moral backbone that allows you to vote in a proven liar or a proven thief.

I want honest, upright politicians that are role models. And that, at this point in history, what determines my voting allegiances. The fact is you KNOW labour are immoral, corrupt, and dishonest, you KNOW they are repeat liars, and thats why the deserve to be ejected from office. Cameron, and a large number of the Tories are not half as bad, and all you can do is put them in office and see how they behave, you cannot speculate because they have no relevant track record to compare to. The Lib Dems are probably pretty honest and upright, but they have nil experience, and as a secondary point some of there policies are from la la land, and they will sell us down the river to Europe in a blink.

I want politics cleaned up, because morality comes from the top down in society. The only way we do that is to eject the rotten apples from government whenever we get the chance, and giving someone else a go in power. Labour have had there chance, and have been caught too many times lying and cheating.

And thats because of people like you, Fliight, the voters with no morals who keep voting them back in, the rotten apple voters for the rotten apple politicians.

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noddyholder · 20/04/2010 12:47

same here!was active in anti racist marches etc after suffering horrific abuse as a result of my relationship with mixed race guy so don't think I will be of use either

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 12:47

That's a good degree nh, is it ok to ask you for some help if I need it..?

Clarissimo · 20/04/2010 12:44

Me too NH (interest in polirtis) but since my specialty was anti racism / anti homophobic argument I suspect Dp will steer clear of me on that one