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Heres what a hung Parliament will do

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lincstash · 18/04/2010 09:42

WE have been there before, with both Wilson and Heath.

No one can rule with a minority government. Its an abortion. Nothing radical, nothing decisive can get passed into law. Nothing gets decided, no real advancement can be made, everything is fudge and a compromise.

IF we get a hung parliament, Labour will retain power (as the incumbent governments right to), completely unable to do anything decisive about the economy, and eventually, after being defeated in multiple votes government will collapse with a year, and another election will ensue. You only need a major bill such as the Finance Bill to get destroyed by the opposition, and thats thats.

Meanwhile, the militant left wing unions (UNITE and GMB) will set about ejecting Labours Blairites and Brownites from the party , (as they have promised they can and will), and whilst labour struggles along in the minority in westminster, civil war will rip the party apart as the unions seize control and force the party back to socialist far left. Policy making and decision making will cease within the government

Meanwhile, the worlds financial markets will see the political chaos, pull the plug on our credit rating and that will be it, game set an match. The economy will collapse, and the World Bank will be forced to step in, as it did with the Wilson Government. We will then be a prime target for the EU vultures to take further control of us.

THis is not speculation, this is based on previous times in our history when we have been in this position. We are the 5th largest economy because we always have had majority governments. If you want examples of what happens to countries with minority rules, look at places like Italy, Argentina, Brazil. 3rd rate counties because they cant be ruled decisively.

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daftpunk · 20/04/2010 10:08

Flight;

All he is doing is talking politics.....what's wrong with that?...he is obv passionate about it.....your attitude is wrong....why do you think he is spouting shit..? he's just politically not your thing, so what..?.....there are no right or wrongs....just differing opinions....learn how to debate...!

The mindset here needs to change.

TheHeathenOfSuburbia · 20/04/2010 09:56

Well, lincstash's posts look convincing at first glance, but once you apply your brain you can see they're complete crap.

As DP is proud of being a BNP activist, I don't think it should be any surprise that she is easily taken in by nicely phrased bullshit.

Fliight · 20/04/2010 09:52

Do you know, Dafty, I nearly posted something on this thread yesterdayabout you, saying that if you saw it you'd think he was spouting as much sh*t as the rest of us think...I'm really shocked that you appear to think his views and/or attitude have some validity.

There you go, then.
I'll just go off and, erm, cry.

daftpunk · 20/04/2010 07:56

Lincstash is a breath of fresh air on MN, it's a shame he'll disappear after the election, I think MN needs more men, (and this is coming from someone who used to think there shouldn't be a single man on MN).....after a while you get a bit sick of talking to soppy leftie women, most of them resort to childish behaviour when faced with something they don't like or can't handle, (or start crying)........there are only about 5 posters who keep me interested in MN, 1 is deffo a man, I'm pretty sure another one is too....

DroosieCat · 20/04/2010 07:09

Oh shove off elsewhere lincstash - you are rude, condescending and very very right wing. There are plenty of Dads who post here and there is a Dadsnet topic if you take the bother to look around. However, you are not interested in looking around are you? More interested in insulting people for their views which is a shame as some of your stuff is interesting and thought out. Couching it in rudeness though is unlikely to win you (or the Party you represent) any fans.

I certainly WON'T be voting Tory on May 6th because people like you sum up my fears of a Tory Govt - rude, patronizing and couldn't give a stuff for anyone's views but your own.
And I wasn't taken in one bit by "call me Dave" on the Party Political Broadcast last night. All that jacket off and hey I'm just a normal bloke bollocks.

Heres to a hung parliament on May 7th which from what I can see will be nowhere near the tragedy (except for the Tories) you are predicting.

Kevlarhead · 20/04/2010 01:05

"You'll get on much better on the internet if you take your thumb out ur ass and understand the difference, 'cos pointing it out just makes you look like a noob which gives you zero net cred."

And my point (that insulting people is rude, and uncongenial to discussion) passes straight over his head.... whoosh.

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Kevlarhead · 20/04/2010 00:21

Have you checked my username?

As for the exclusionism, the only time I notice is when someone n00b comes in and starts ranting about it.

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lincstash · 20/04/2010 00:20

"By Kevlarhead Tue 20-Apr-10 00:09:53

Unfortunately you spoil it by making mis-spelled insults like a tedious sixth form debater ("But then, your a leftwinger, you wouldnt know what the truth looks like anyway.")"

See why is it that techonubs like you never ever know the difference between spelling and keyboarding? I can spell fine, I keyboard sloppy, so i make typos. Since this is a throw away no consequence internet chat, its doesnt make any difference, the typos arent worth pissing about with, it would take me twice as long to post if i went back and corrected all the typos, and there not worth correcting for this purpose. Its an inconsequential trivial chat with a bunch of strangers, not a CV for a £100k a year job. it doesnt need immaculate spelling, grammar and keyboarding.

You'll get on much better on the internet if you take your thumb out ur ass and understand the difference, 'cos pointing it out just makes you look like a noob which gives you zero net cred. You'll prolly not make so many peoples KLOS list that way.....

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lincstash · 20/04/2010 00:13

Even the name of this board is sexist and covertly exclusionist- 'mumsnet'

It should be 'parents net' at least.

As for 'equality', you already blew it as a sex.

Even Germiane Greer, the All High Preistess of Feminism says its all gone wrong for women. What women wanted was equality with men (and why not), instead they have tried to replace men, and managed it, to a large extent.

For example, if you went to A&E at the local hospital 30 years ago any saturday night, it would be full of drunken young men still trying to fight each other. Now its full of drunken young women trying to ape them. The only way women could find to be equal was to emulate men, except they emulated all the worst aspects of men. Not a good move.

Women dont like the concept of sexism, except when they apply it against men, and they want equality, except when it disadvantages them. Thats why a lot of men have no sympathy with the concept. You havent managed equality yet because you still wont let go of the advantages to women of sexism. Very very naughty!!!

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Kevlarhead · 20/04/2010 00:09

HPC = House Price Crash. The usual place I go to read screeds of rants from people who believe the world will be consumed by a black hole if George Osborne doesn't get into No 11 in time for the summer.

There's a potentially interesting debate to be had about the possible consequences of a hung parliament; I liked the comment that "we have struggled to find our niche , really and ended up doing high technology on borrowed money."

Unfortunately you spoil it by making mis-spelled insults like a tedious sixth form debater ("But then, your a leftwinger, you wouldnt know what the truth looks like anyway.")

Lose the persecution complex, and get some sleep, and an enlightening discussion might ensure...

AitchTwoZone · 20/04/2010 00:03

what a silly analysis. let's talk about this again when women have achieved something remotely approaching equality, mmm-kay?

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lincstash · 19/04/2010 23:59

Ah no, you see you cant have it both ways. You cant demand women be allowed everywhere men can go, and demand entrance to men clubs, and enter mens sports, and then demand a place only YOU can go that men are excluded. Its very hypocritical.

You need to make or your minds, do you want to be equal with men (in which case all rules and conditions apply equally to either sex, and enforcement of anti-sexism) or do you want exclusivity for sexes (womens groups and mens clubs, and no use of the word or concept 'sexism')

You cant have it both ways.

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AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 23:49

the hairy penis club, surely?

AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 23:49

to answer your question... i would just like there to be somewhere, just somewhere on the internet where women could converse/debate/argue etc without men telling us where we're going wrong. we have to listen to you all the time, in our homes, in our jobs, everywhere, you're very attention-seeking without even realising it... and i'd just like there to be a place where i could only hear the female voices. that's all. i don't think it's a sexist viewpoint to wish to exclude men from one place on the internet, especially when you are piddling all over the rest of it.

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lincstash · 19/04/2010 23:46

HPC - The Health Professions Council ?????

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Kevlarhead · 19/04/2010 23:44

Hey lincstash! Didn't you used to post on HPC?

Ninjacat · 19/04/2010 23:34

Your love for humanity is truly inspirational. I hope you have a very happy life

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lincstash · 19/04/2010 23:29

None, other than its a public discussion board and my opinion is as good as anyone elses. I also notice Mumsnet is heavily biassed to the left, so im here to add some weight on the other side of the see saw.

Im also here to troll the more obvious meat puppets..........

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Ninjacat · 19/04/2010 23:25

My willy is definitely bigger than yours Linktash

As I said before family history is only ever of interest to the person it belongs too and then it's only an accident of birth. I was simply illustrating a point. You do know if you go back far enough were pretty much all related to royalty?

Of course some people can't go back more than 200 hundred years due to that respectable trade we built ourselves on, eh?

But I repeat again. What succor are you after on Mumsnet?

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lincstash · 19/04/2010 23:25

"By AitchTwoZone Mon 19-Apr-10 23:08:33
and this is why i would prefer not to have men on mumsnet"

Is that because you're sexist or left wing totalitarian ?

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AitchTwoZone · 19/04/2010 23:08

and this is why i would prefer not to have men on mumsnet.

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lincstash · 19/04/2010 23:01

"No I'm not bitter Linktash.

My history is of great interest to me. My 3 great uncles were officers in the RAF. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather were Captains in the Merchant Navy and my Grandmother was Bomber Haris' Driver (very angry man apparently). But I doubt that is of any interest to anyone outside my family.

Really impressed you can trace yours back through the Dark ages though."

  1. Well if you want a big willy contest when it comes to WW2...

MY g'father was a Chief Petty Officer in 1916 at the Battle of Jutland, and rejoined in WW2, and was mentioned in Dispatches at the sinking of the Hood at the Battle of Denmark Strait in 1941

My grandmother was in Queen Alexandra?s Imperial Military Nursing Service and served on HS Gloucester Castle

My father was a navigator on Lancasters, then did a second tour in Burma, at one point dropping supplies to the Chindits. He was also a member of the Goldfish Club, having ditched in the Bay of Bengal and had to avoid Japanese for a week.

One uncle flew Mozzys in a photo reccy squadron.

Another uncle was at Anzio in 1944 and then at Monte Cassino, having been attached to an american unit as British liason

A third uncle was shot down over france, captured and kept in Stalag Luft III, managing to slip away when they moved the prisoners to Stalag XIII-D as the russians approached from the east.

My mother was WRAF

Her 3 sisters were Wrens or Land Army.

  1. You can trace back much further if you have noble/royal/landed connections. Being able to connect to one of the Nobles who landed with William means you are following a line over well trodden french nobility geneology. Not hard. You will only struggle if your related to peasants with no land, no money and no title, you'll prolly grind to a halt about 1500 AD. We can connect as well to John Balliol, Henry IV and Sir Robert Silkstone ( who died of the Black Death 1347). But then ive been at it nearly 40 years on and off.
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policywonk · 19/04/2010 22:46

To be fair, lincs, what you provided were quotes from a motion that has yet to be put to conference (if I'm understanding you correctly). It's not in any way official Unite policy.

Coolfonz · 19/04/2010 22:43

"I think the there are masonic driving forces behind it, including the secret 33rd Degree Masons, of which every single world leader now and since 1960, is a member."

I knew there was something about Idi Amin's turn-ups.

edam · 19/04/2010 22:43

Yeah, right... a. can't see any chance of that happening (sadly, politics is rather tedious now there's no major ideological divide) and b. just searched this thread for 'unite' and can't see any quotes.

If Unite genuinely wanted a return to socialism, they'd be funding one of the minority parties that stood in the European elections, not Labour.

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