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Is anyone else really scared of the prospect of waking up to a tory administration on May 7th?

219 replies

electra · 16/04/2010 20:22

Because I am! i think it will be truly awful. Don't get me wrong, I don't think labour are fabulous but omg surely they are better than another Thatcher style administration?? I have a disabled child who is 8 years old.......I somehow doubt that it will be any easier to get her what she needs as she goes into her teenage years under a conservative government. It's hard enough now!!

Yesterday the blues were campaigning in our town centre - I live in a swing area - traditionally tory but fell to new labour in 1997. They seem so.....backward thinking to me.

Am I overreacting? Is there an upside at all?

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crystal123 · 16/04/2010 23:01

No I'm more worried to waking up to 13 more years of labour misery!!

lincstash · 16/04/2010 23:01

i agree. it doesnt make a blind bit of difference what school you went to, but labour as so desparate to get back in they have resorted to the class war.

All that matters in a politician as far as im concerned is there moral, honest , trustworthy and smart.

We know labour in its entirety fails this test, so we might as well give Cameron a try, because you have no idea what hes like unless you do give him a chance, just like we did with Blair.

edam · 16/04/2010 22:59

Hey lincstash, don't hold back there, feel free to tell us 'feminazis' exactly what you think. (How does one get to be a feminazi, btw? Does merely believing that women are equal to men count or do I have to do something more extreme, like campaign for equal pay audits so something that has the law for more than 30 years actually does happen?)

chandellina · 16/04/2010 22:57

whether i agree with posters here or not, i don't understand why everyone must rely on belittling the geographic background or education of politicians - how can the country get over class if we constantly reinforce stereotypes?

lincstash · 16/04/2010 22:55

George Orwell would t urn in his grave if he saw what the Labour party had turned into. Orwell was a socialist, and a believer in the working class, in democracy, in civil liberties, and in freedom of speech.

Labour have turned there backs on the working class, labour have abandoned democracy by passing a law that allows it to pass other laws without any further parlimentary vote, they have taken away 500 years of civil liberties and rights, they have stifled freedom of speech.

George Orwell would be sick if he could see what a sham Labour have become. The party of the people - dont make me laugh, they stopped being that when Blair and his Estuary english cronies took office.

wilkos · 16/04/2010 22:52

To answer the OP, no.

I am frankly terrified of even another 5 minutes worth of this appalling Labour government who are gradually destroying the whole country

cinnamontoast · 16/04/2010 22:52

Militant feminist - great! Let's have more of them!

cinnamontoast · 16/04/2010 22:51

No,crystal, she's just wrong - on so much but on the Harriet Harman question specifically. It's not whether you went to Eton/other posh school, it's what you choose to do after that. DC has chosen to support the party that will most comfortably allow people like him to continue their privileged lifestyle. I believe George Orwell went to Eton and I have absolutely no problem with his political views - he had the courage to reject the received ideas that were part and parcel of a privileged background and try to create a fairer society.

lincstash · 16/04/2010 22:47

Harriet Harman has just introduced a bill, the Equality Bill, that is the most bigoted anti male, anti english, anti marriage, anti christian, anto family bunch of legislation ever passed. Harriet Harman is a militant feminist of a high order, and her idea of 'equitable' amount to nothing less than bigotry of the highest order. Her bill is nothing less than state sponsored prejudice.

This women, the High Priestess of Feminazism, the woman who pushed hard for all women short list, then conveniently had her husband parachuted past the short list into a safe seat, this hypocrit who pretends to want equality yet passes laws to make prejudice lawful, is a danger to society with her odious views and doctrine.

crystal123 · 16/04/2010 22:44

LICTASH. After 13 years of misery from Labour, you have said the most sensible things tonight, good for you!

cinnamontoast · 16/04/2010 22:40

Lincstash, Harriet Harmen has a posh background but she supports policies designed to build a more equitable society, in which children who don't have the advantages she had are given a decent start in life (SureStart being the obvious example). There's a big difference between her political career and Cameron's - he's joined the party of privilege and I just don't think you can dispute that that's what the Tories are. When have they ever talked about equality or redistribution of wealth?

crystal123 · 16/04/2010 22:32

David Cameron had a disabled child who has died, and I'm sure your aware of that, Cameron would not I'm sure do anything to stop provision for disabled children or any child.

chandellina · 16/04/2010 22:32

what does Gordon Brown know about the problems of the average person? He has been living in Downing Street for the past 13 years. Pretty far removed from reality. i see no reason whatsoever to believe he has an advantage in that regard over David Cameron.

Tashtodd · 16/04/2010 22:30

Agree Lincstash

HumphreyCobbler · 16/04/2010 22:28

also the tax break thing is for civil partnerships too

are they planning on reducing help for single mothers? where does it say this?

lincstash · 16/04/2010 22:16

And yet for 14 years Labour has had Harriet Harman, the daughter of a Duchess, with a far more aristocratic geneology than Cameron, and yet that apparantly is ok, that doesnt count ok !!

What utter hypocrisy this thread is full of!!!

If its not ok for Cameron to be a rich kid, then i didnt see you all campaigning to have Harman ejected from government. Whats sauce for the goose etc.

This thread is just more looney left hypocrisy from the same small bunch of labour posters in lib dem drag.

HumphreyCobbler · 16/04/2010 22:15

sorry thirtysomething, I wasn't directing those comments at you specifically but making a more general point.

It is something that really riles me about political discussion in general.

Your points are valid, and I think we actually agree more than we might think. Except who we will be voting for.

See though, it is quite easy to look at tory policy here bit long winded though

NotanOtter · 16/04/2010 22:04

i get you and partially agree about background

I don't see him as a particularly genuine bloke and was shocked at the number of references to Ivan (?) last night

thirtysomething · 16/04/2010 22:02

I agree notanotter-he's not shown a lifelong passion for politics. But I dont think his background should automatically exclude him from being Prime Minister. There's no reason why someone from Eton couldn't be a fair and equitable leader - I just won't be voting for this particular guy from Eton as something tells me he won't be fair and equitable!

NotanOtter · 16/04/2010 21:53

thirtysomething - i do...how can he have any understanding of the plight of Joe Average with his Eton/Bullingdon/Viscountess wife

he never even dabbled in politics at University
It's a career for Cameron not a passion

thirtysomething · 16/04/2010 21:50

HC I didn't even mention his background-you did! And as I said I don't think his background actually has any bearing on my vote. i'm from a virtually identical background and yet my political views are very different to his. It happens. It's called inidividual philosophy/life experience, and we all have those whether we went to an inner-city comp or Eton.

Like others have said I too would like to hear his policies. So far all I've seen are the "Vote Conservative" posters telling us what Labour did/didn't do. I'm always very suspicious when a campaign is based on negative name-calling and finger-pointing. Same last night it seemed - blaming labour/certain types of people for society's problems, without much substance about what they are proposing.

RedBlueRed · 16/04/2010 21:41

Humphrey, I had a tory campaigner knock on my door yesterday, lovely lady and very personable but all she wanted to know from me was "could they rely on my vote?" I explained it would be a first but that I wanted to weigh up each manifesto before making a decision. And then "But who did I prefer 'personality-wise'". I was a little gobsmacked. I thought politics was about policies and britain's got talent was about popularity.

So what is the tory campaign about? Popularity or policies?

gaelicsheep · 16/04/2010 21:36

If I could see a manifesto from the Tories that was anything like the Lib Dem manifesto - ie with proper policies - I might be less uneasy. I was inclined to vote Tory before the start of this campaign, but the past days and weeks have made me like them less and less.

DC had nothing to say last night on the economy except for scrapping the proposed NI increase, £6 billion "efficiency savings" and protecting the NHS from cuts. The lack of detail and candour worries me now.

Ripeberry · 16/04/2010 21:33

Quite interesting around Bristol, when you look at the campaign posters. In the countryside it's all Tory, in the nice leafy suburbs all Liberals, but even in the council areas NO-ONE had any labour posters up.
Most people are so apathetic, they won't vote and some don't even know how to ?
Most other countries have citizens who will dodge bullets and beatings to vote.

tarantula · 16/04/2010 21:32

Am reaLLY SCARED that the tories will get in. We are living on one average London wage (dp hasntbeen able to get a job atm) and getting by at the moment (just) with no car, no holidays and a mortgage on a small house on the very edge of London. If the Tories raise my tax as they say they will then thats us on the breadline, house gone cos we wont be able to afford it and not able to afford to rent which is twice the price of our mortgage. Worse off doesnt even come into it, we will be in dire poverty.