Anyone else shocked by Cameron's comment last night or is it just me?!

And Hague's 11 pints a night

What a laugh! probably was made up!

I don't think he is racist - possibly trying too hard to appeal to those who want something done about immigration but are not 'racist'!

The Tories always seem to do this. I remember William and Ffion Hague's rictous(sp?) grins when posing for pictures at the Notting Hill Carnival. Again, try hards . Oh, and employing Patti Boulet to appeal to Black voters

Am inclined to believe that the story in the OP has been made up by DC and his PR team, though.

Fluffles sorry about the spelling mistakes, but I must go and talk some sense to my plants, or water them.

FLUFFLEs you are missing the point! if this man had said that the BBC was hideously black, he would have been sacked! I fyou are going to criminalie speech, then let's have it both ways!

I don't beleive this man exists

Yes it is a surprise as I don't think this man is racist, he was just pointing out that
black people believe immigration is too high, it was put in a clumsy way, but for heavens sake racism is not around every corner or on every politiicans lips!

Yes it is a surprise as I don't think this man is racist, he was just pointing out that
black people believe immigration is too high, it was put in a clumsy way, but for heavens sake racism is not around every corner or on every politiicans lips!

sorry, i know this is tangential, but can somebody tell me what was wrong with the bbc man saying the bbc was far too white?

my organisation and sector has a serious problem with under-recruitment from most ethnic groups except for white-european, it is a problem, we would be better for being more diverse, is that not exactly what the bbc man ment? is it not ok to say that?

When DC said that, DH and i kind of looked at each other and went 'Er....?'

I said, "To be fair, the voters he's trying to attract here probably aren't that worried about being politically correct"

'S about winning an election, innit.

i reckon dc made it up. im in plymouth. there are hardly any black people here now, let alone 36 years ago. it would have been awfully convinient to meet one just passing on his campaign tour.

if he met some janners they would have said alot worse than 'immigration is out of control' since plymouth is the most xenophobic place i have everl ived in!

coolfonz I can understand your point but my husband is mixed race and he does not think Cameron's at all racist, we should not be seeing racism in everything, as it is very uncomfortable and makes people wary of what they say, which is not good for society, already Ed Balls is trying to put children on 'Lists' until they are 18 for playground taunts or words that the thought police deem offensive, so this aspect of our society and the use stifling of terminology is very worrying. My father was Irish and he always said to me "they can call me what they like, as long as they can "call me" I now understand what he meant.

Crystal - it's racist plain and simple. He was saying look even black people think immigration is high. And they are, you know, black Playing the race card, nasty.

The BBC guy who said that hideously white shit is also an idiot, racialising problems is a problem in itself.

he's a complete idiot isn't he. i'm shocked that this hasn't been noted in the press

Do you see racism in everything? Give this man a break! This is what is real racism is, the head of the BBC calling the BBC hideously white! But I don't suppose you think that's racism!

It's shows his 'them' and 'us' mentality. What a slimeball.

You can do racist things without admitting to yourself, or even knowing, you are a racist. It's like institutional racism, but personal. But what DC said is racist and shows he doesn't understand racism.

One of the basic things about racism is that people of any ethnic group/race are quite able to be massive twats.

So it is racist/ethnicist to say the Israelis shouldn't be mean to the Palestinians, after all they should know better.

It is racist to say to a black policeman/Condeleeza Rice/Colin Powell/John Taylor (the Tory) you are a traitor to your race.

And so on.

So what Cameron said, was racist, simple. Is it a surprise though?

Slimy man, slimy comment.

It's about as reasonable as claiming he knows how hard it is for people on benefits to get out of poverty. Yeah, of course you do dear

to me it came across as look even black people don't want any more immigrants so you know, it's ok for me to say that too.

I noticed the 30 years service in the Navy thing as well ans went

Barry Scott Nick Clegg also mentioned the state school thing. He was a hairs breadth away from sticking up his hand, jumping on the spot and saying "mine tooooo! Mine toooo!"

I don't think he us racist, naive maybe and perhaps overly concerned not to be seen as racist.

Smacks of "I can't be racist, I have friends who are black", even though I like DC.

Yes, I noticed both these points. First of all thought I must be ill informed and that China is an immediate nuclear threat!

I thought he was going to be in his element last night but thought he was the poorest of the 3 of them. He didn't really say anything concrete did he? Hated the way he had to mention that his child went to state school aswell.