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TV Debate - who did best?

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JustineMumsnet · 15/04/2010 22:00

So there you have it. History in the making; the UK's first live Leaders' election debate. Who do you think did best? Has it confirmed/ clarified your choice or even changed your mind?

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CwtchyMama · 16/04/2010 08:31

I saw the debate last night & was an unsure voter,i have always voted Labour,all my family have too.

However i think New Labour have made a mess of our country & we do need a change.

I thought GB was okish last night but not great,tbh i dont think any of them shone out above the rest but what it did do was re-inforce my belief in wanting to vote Tory this time round.

I thought DC came across genuinely caring & chomping at the bit to get into office & start the changes we desperately need.

amothersplaceisinthewrong · 16/04/2010 08:27

GB fared much better than I had expected - but then I had not expected that much from him!! He sounded as if he knew his stuff (which of course he does)

NC - came accross well for me. DC mentioned his son which I thought was cheesy and his plight of respite care etc - trying to hard to be a man of the people......

I wanted to ask all of them when they referred to people "they met", who exactly they were....

DeedeeD · 16/04/2010 08:25

1st: NC and GB
3rd: DC (vacuous)

Come on Nick make me want you.

LiLu79 · 16/04/2010 08:20

I'm sorry,but with the live debate last night,it was rubbish... Don't get me wrong yes they had some good points,but in saying that I don't want GB nor DC to get in...and with NC I seriously doubt he could cope with the job....
I'm still undecided to I will vote for

Kneazle · 16/04/2010 08:19

When DC was talking about respite care he said "even for me the form filling was difficult" which made me thing so for us mere mortals it would be impossible because we are all so thick compared to you? I can't imagine he filled in the forms himself anyway.

Kneazle · 16/04/2010 08:12

NC was great
GB good as well
DC meh

vesela · 16/04/2010 08:09

NC was engaging and to the point. Better than DC at using facts/anecdotes to make his point. Direct.

DC waffled - he uses anecdotes but can't seem to get anywhere with them. Patronising at times. Did get some points over, though.

GB tried, but he has a millstone round his neck. He clearly had gambits (let's get close to Clegg) that failed, and then it was as if he had nothing left.

SixtyFootDoll · 16/04/2010 08:06

I was pleasantly surprised at NC
Thought DC came across as superficial.
GB came across as snidey to me.

Still dont want to vote for any of them.
Wil porb vote for an independent as I cant not vote.

weegiemum · 16/04/2010 08:03

Nick Clegg came off best. But as the Nationalist leaders weren't included, I can't make a decent decision based on this debate (am in Scotland). So many questions realted to devolved powers (police, justice, education, health) that it just wasn't relevant to me or those around me.

MilkNoSugarPlease · 16/04/2010 07:50

Has no political baring and is somewhat shallow....but if they ever made action figured for GB, DC & NC, DC's would be the most lifelike!

The man is made of plastic I'm sure!

Thought GB came across well! I was suprised at how well! The man has my vote

DC was a PITA!

NC came across very very well, won't change my vote but was impressed!

posieparker · 16/04/2010 07:39

GB....I felt tired just watching him and loathed the fact that everything he had to say was about making up for the last decade of crap.

DC...Eeeewww, too many crowbarred PR phrases.

NC...Brilliant, and I loved all of his policies.

CaveMum · 16/04/2010 07:33

One question I have to ask is have Labour opened the books to the other parties so they can see exactly what is currently being spent where? I think the Conservatives did this before the 1992 election.

If they haven't we can't expect the LibDems or the Tories to give us accurate figures on what they will cut or spend.

For me the debate hasn't changed my voting intentions. NC came across well but was patronising at times (he did the 'my kids go to state school' thing too) and it annoyed me that he kept putting his hands in his pockets! Stand up straight and look smart man, you're trying to become leader! That said, the LibDems have an igloos chance in he'll of getting in, so no vote there.

GB, I'm sorry but nothing he could say will make me vote for Labour. They have screwed this country over for 13 years and need to go. If only we could get shot of Mandy too!

DC not great, but not awful. I'm not 100% convinced by him as PM but the fact is we have a parliamentary system not a presidential one and I will therefore vote for the party I most agree with, not the man I like the most - or in this case dislike the least!

Tory vote for me.

piscesmoon · 16/04/2010 07:32

Although NC came off well, I also wondered how workable it all was in practice. GB came across much better than I expected.

preggersplayspop · 16/04/2010 07:23

DC was like a walking talking Daily Mail front page, which definitely put me off. All those hand gestures in the opening bit as well - too rehearsed and insincere.

I think GB had learnt a trick from the mumsnet webchats - Answer the question David!! I was alarmed that DC completely ducked these very direct questions, which makes me concerned about what else they would hide from us.

I thought GB came across well, he has strong principles to fall back on and I thought his policies and reasons for them were made clear (eg why we are in Afghanistan, nuclear weapons etc).

NC came off well, but hard not too. Some of his policies seem attractive, but not sure how workable in practice.

MaryAnnSingleton · 16/04/2010 07:21

done ! go Nick !

cupcake75 · 16/04/2010 06:59

Thought GB came off a lot better than I expected. NC was good as well. This debate was DC's to lose and I don't think he will have won too many new fans as a result of his performance. Yet again he was very light on detail and I continue to have no idea what the man stands for and what their policies will be in practice.

Picante · 16/04/2010 06:20

Was anyone else really annoyed by the way DC said 'properly'?

I heart NC.

expatinscotland · 16/04/2010 00:51

Swing voter here (NOT Tory).

Labour now.

Got our notice today: postal ballot coming through letter slot 23-30 April.

GB really shone through tonight, IMO.

takethatlady · 16/04/2010 00:50

I know - perhaps it was just one anecdote too many. The ending was so strange! It was weird to watch GB wandering off shaking people's hands while the other two just stood there nervously. Poor NC - that was definitely DC's fault! I think he was hoping for one more posing opportunity...

grumpypants · 16/04/2010 00:37

how funny; the independent were offering tips - use anecdotes was one of them. i got distracted at the end when dc pulled nc back, and gb went off shaking hands...

takethatlady · 16/04/2010 00:31

PS - I really got pissed off with all the anecdotes. The amount of things everybody seemed to have done 'the other day' was amazing! If only we all had this mythical 'other day' we could fit a lot more in, I reckon!

takethatlady · 16/04/2010 00:28

I have voted twice before, both times for Liberal Democrats - partly on single issues (university tuition fees (I was 18 and in uni the first time) and the war). Though I'm not much of a Nick Clegg fan, and though I think he focuses too much on very narrow issues such as Trident or smaller class sizes without really being brave enough to hammer home liberalism as a political philosophy, the debate has only confirmed to me that I will vote Lib Dem again.

Particularly having watched Question Time tonight I am utterly horrified at the Conservative proposal that we should all be able to run our own schools, hospitals, and even elect certain people within the police force. Education, surely, is about giving young people the chance, whatever their backgrounds, to learn about the world beyond their own communities - other religions, other times and places, the natural world, literatures, and so on. I am deeply concerned that this policy will mean that education narrowly benefits local businesses and their narrow employment needs, or will serve the interests of the pushiest parents. Justice is not a matter for election, as Shami Chakrabarti pointed out. Poorer communities will have less skilled or expert people to run these schools, and the upshot is that the Conservatives hope to exploit the goodwill of volunteers to make its cuts. For me that's the end of any slim chance they had of me voting for them. I thought Cameron was cold, cynical and smug.

Brown did okay in my book, but what can he say? The times are against him, and whatever he does he can't hope to win public favour at this late stage. Clegg did best not because he was the most relaxed, but because the Lib Dems are the only ones with any degree of honesty about the cuts and where they're going to come from, so he was better able to answer questions directly. And the other leaders' determination to ignore him actually made him stand out.

NoseyNooNoo · 16/04/2010 00:10

GB agreed to it, not because he's a good egg but because he has nothing to lose and much to gain. He came across as point-scoring and please, someone, tell him to stop gurning like that.

DC came across as the best potential leader and refrained from too much 'I agree with Nick'. He gave the best closing argument.

NC, as I predicted, gained the most. He gave the kind of answer, style-wise, that I would give but that is not a complement because I am inexperienced and lacking in knowledge. He had the most relaxed body-language. He was the worst offender re: naming names. The closing argument was excrutiating.

DC the winner, by a nose, for me.

said · 16/04/2010 00:04

Someone described DC as "flimsy" earlier on - I like that description. And he seemed very scowly and petulant looking a lot of the time. Looked a bit spoilt.

TheFirstLady · 16/04/2010 00:01

My 12-year-old daughter sat up to watch the debate with us. She went in as a Labour supporter and finished saying that if she could vote she would vote Lib Dem. I have to say I agree, I thought he won the debate hands down, particularly be refusing to play along with Gordon Brown's blandishments to gang up on DC (which were possibly being made with one eye on a possible coalition).
DC was weak on detail and overall didn't demonstrate nearly so much command of his facts as the others.

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