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Conservative Manifesto Launch

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anastaisia · 13/04/2010 12:28

read it here

shall we pick this one to pieces too...

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alicatte · 13/04/2010 13:21

anastaisia,

You seem to have read this in some detail, I'm guessing you're something political/into politics.

Maybe you can help me to understand what they are saying.

You say that local councils get more power and fewer targets - so is it only local councils who can decide what happens locally?

Fox-hunting again - surely that's a joke does it really say that they would start it again?

slug · 13/04/2010 13:12

Actually (sad ex-maths teacher emoticon here) there were 131 pages of which 38 were full page graphics (some very badly formatted may I add) and 17 title pages or blank pages. I make that around about 60% content, 40% windowdressing.

PfftTheMagicDragon · 13/04/2010 13:11

ack. Am sick of these buzz words. Broken Britain for one. And if I hear a Tory say the words "Jobs tax" again I might have to cut my ears off.

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anastaisia · 13/04/2010 13:09

lol, I skipped past all the intro and pictures right to the sections on things I care about - government reform, education etc

Like the idea of local councils having more power and less targets (p75/6)

Like the civil liberties pages (p79/80) except for suggestion to repeal the hunting act - But it would be free vote so people could start working on their MPs to vote to keep it.

Like some of the changing politics ideas about public involvement and more free votes (how many more though?), increasing use of technology and things (page 65ish) Especially like promise to ensure proper time for debate and scruntity of new Bills as was horrified at the way debates just ran out of time when I started watching parliamentary TV for the Children, Schools and Families Bill and instead of saying 'this is clearly an issue that needs more discussion' they go 'right, time up lets vote now'.

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slug · 13/04/2010 13:06

Am slightly sniggering at the "New York policing as an example of dropping crime rates". Did they not read Freakonomics?

alicatte · 13/04/2010 13:05

My DS just said it sounded like Dr Who where you'd have to all vote individually on everything.

alicatte · 13/04/2010 13:01

Am I just stupid?

I'm really not sure what they are proposing.

I was watching News 24 in the background and it seemed to me that they were saying that whatever you wanted in your local environment you'd have to have a vote on it with your neighbours.

Would we be able to do anything? Surely everyone would be interested in their own point of view and you'd get into a sort of stand-off situation.

Wouldn't everything grind to a halt?

What was all that stuff about charities and businesses running schools?

Maybe I heard it wrong but it all sounded really alarming.

vesela · 13/04/2010 12:56

Sorry, should be looking at the words rather than the graphics, but was just a quick look because have to go out now.

vesela · 13/04/2010 12:54

retro-Communist type graphics, even.

slug · 13/04/2010 12:54

Arrgghh!! "broken britain" rears it's ugly head again.

A prize for the first person who can tell me what this means

"develop a measure of well-being that
encapsulates the social value of state action." (p38)

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anastaisia · 13/04/2010 12:54

Glancing through the parts that are important to me, there's actually quite a bit I like which suprises me.

I know I want anyone but Labour because of the home education/civil liberties stuff, and I'll probably vote Lib Dem who are more likely to win here - but at a first look I don't hate this.

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vesela · 13/04/2010 12:53

I've only seen two pictures of people so far...

but some very strange wartime propaganda-y-looking typefaces in the graphics.

And picture on page 4 (?) is clear - we're all cogs in the machine.

Weird.

slug · 13/04/2010 12:47

Loads and loads of images. It's quite hard to find them eat amongst the smiling people happier under the Conservatives.

vesela · 13/04/2010 12:46

don't know, jackstarbright - I also shudder at the thought of David Cameron's "army of 5,000 professional community organisers."

jackstarbright · 13/04/2010 12:44

Also very HSM - 'We're All In this Together' oh dear!

jackstarbright · 13/04/2010 12:38

Oh - I quite liked the intro - very JFK!! At least it's different from Labour and I think it is what they honestly believe.

vesela · 13/04/2010 12:35

I'm finding the preamble disturbing.

"A country is at its best when the bonds between people are strong and when the sense of national purpose is clear... Real change comes when the people are inspired and mobilised, when millions of us are fired up to play a part in the nation?s future.

Collective strength will overpower our problems..."