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So I just joined the Labour party...

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ButterPie · 14/12/2009 22:12

Is anyone else a member? Will I regret it? I just need to do SOMETHING about the tories looking like they will get to be in charge, plus I have been meaning to get more involved in local politics for a while. I had been tempted by respect, then socialist workers, then by the green party, but kept running into mental policies. At least with Labour there is more chance of actually making a difference.

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elkiedee · 15/12/2009 17:03

butterpie, good for you.

I'm a very cynical Labour Party member, I joined as a union/political activist and have tried to argue/influence Labour Party policy and discuss things with our local councillors. I often wonder why.

I'm happy to see a leftie joining though being a socialist and joining the LP/going to meetings can be pretty demoralising.

ilovemydogandmrobama · 15/12/2009 16:40

Good for you! I like people who make a stand!

smallwhitecat · 15/12/2009 16:38

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scaryteacher · 15/12/2009 16:31

I don't think the Tories will get rid of civil partnerships seeing that some of their MPs are in them. I can't see them dismantling the NHS either, though making it run more efficiently would be a very good thing imo. Unionised workplaces were in existence during the last Tory government (I know, I worked in one), so that is a specious argument; and I can't see state education, anti discrimination legislation, the minimum wage or high taxes to pay for the mess the Labour govt have got the country into, disappearing either.

The Tories have never looked so close to Labour in outlook in all the time I've been voting, so much so, that I have grave doubts about voting for the Tories this time. I will not vote Labour and the Lib Dems leave me cold as well.

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ButterPie · 15/12/2009 10:22

I have actually marched, written letters and signed petitions against the war, as have my friends who are members of the party and even elected officials. I'm just looking at the big picture, and the things that i value tend to be Labour things - the NHS, state education, higher taxes on the rich to support the less well off, surestart, civil partnerships, unionised workplaces, the minimum wage, anti discrimination legislation, and it is all at risk.

I can't very well tell my children to share toys if the grown-ups won't even share the resources.

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mrsbaldwin · 15/12/2009 08:38

Dearie me. So much opprobrium (so far, anyway).

So I say, good on you Butterpie!

OhBuggerandArse · 14/12/2009 22:33

And you're supporting and therefore legitimising a party that supported an illegal and immoral war.

I can see (with considerable discomfort) the argument for voting for them, given an anti-war MP to vote for, to keep the Tories out - but to join the membership? No way in which that isn't an expression of support for the current leadership.

LittleMontyontheDustyRoad · 14/12/2009 22:32

I resigned from LP because of what crackfox said.

Hmph.

(Disclaimer - I did not then join the Tories).

SleighBelleDameSansMerci · 14/12/2009 22:30

Sorry, "there is more chance of them making a difference" to what? Did they not create a lot of what now needs changing? And, by the way, I've often said I would rather not have the vote than vote Conservative so am not rabid Mail reader!

TheCrackFox · 14/12/2009 22:27

How do you actually tell the Tories and Labour apart? They are all arseholes.

You are wasting your time and money.

BrianGiggs · 14/12/2009 22:12

ah well giving them your hard earned money is a total waste of time

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