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The Queen's Speech - Newsnight would like to know what we think of it

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JustineMumsnet · 18/11/2009 10:15

Good morning Mumsnetters,
Newsnight's Michael Crick is coming to visit and wants to know about what we all think of the government's plans as to be revealed (but of course already heavily trailed) in the Queen's Speech Today.

Here's a helpful summary from the BBC.

So what are your thoughts please?

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morningpaper · 18/11/2009 10:47

I like Mandelson's point that he made in the pre-speech press conference about the Tories objections to this as being a divisive speech were GOOD, in that it shows that there IS a big division here between the two main parties and it is not a matter of voting for the Tories because you are bored of the current government.

I hope that Cameron's banging on about the diviseness of the speech is something that people note - there IS a huge division, particularly over things like elderly care/the Social Care Bill.

I do worry a bit about the promise to halve the budget deficit though - would like to know how that is going to be achieved, exactly, as it's rather a massive plan...

Am NOT impressed with the Tory peers announcement that - hohoho they plan to scupper everything - how arrogant to happily play games by blocking the plans of a democratically elected Government!!

policywonk · 18/11/2009 10:43

WHere??

WilfSell · 18/11/2009 10:41

Argh! Thatch is back.

WilfSell · 18/11/2009 10:39

I have already ROFFLED at the 'right to a good education'. It is totally barking up the wrong tree. Education is never improved by establishing more procedures against which users can give feedback and complain. And making it a legal requirement will simply make it much more difficult to recruit teachers and good headteachers I imagine.

Am I being dim here? In what circumstances is taking a school to court going to improve the education my kid gets?

colditz · 18/11/2009 10:39

I've never heard it and not one of my peers has either.

I'm not sure who she thinks she is addressing, but it's not the Great Unwashed because the Great Unwashed aren't listening.

CMOTdibbler · 18/11/2009 10:35

It's all just hot air and posing isn't it ? The political equivalent of 'my tonker is bigger than your tonker".

I'm all for free social care - but it needs to be high quality, consistent care, not patched together by private companies who are all trying to make money out of it. Social care should be an integrated part of health care, and therefore should be run by teams who cover health and social needs both in the community and in residential settings. With their own OTs, physios etc who can be called on to make rapid changes and treat when necessary.

And not more new school initiatives please !

edam · 18/11/2009 10:23

Good to see clampdown on bankers' bonuses but I'm deeply cynical about whether they are planning something that will have a real effect. Bet there's plenty of wriggle room.

And it's about far more than bonuses anyway. We need to bring the banks into line and make them recognise that 'too big to fail' means they are social goods with a responsibility to the public, not solely private sector enterprises to make money for bankers and shareholders. (And that includes the ones that weren't officially bailed out - none of them would still be standing without public intervention and a massive injection of funds into the market as a whole.)

Home care for elderly - good in theory but again need to see the details. Social care is already being increasingly restricted to those with the most extreme needs leaving everyone else without support - will this make it worse? Will it actually be something that is helpful, or just spin? Is Niall Dixon right that it will just conflict with existing policy?

The Tories are probably right that most of this won't make it onto the statute book anyway, especially as they are planning to hold it all up in the Lords.

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