The Queen's Speech - Newsnight would like to know what we think of it

yes hereditary full stop is good news I think.
I agree Mandy's silver slippers make it all worth while.

Mmmm I fancy a turkey sandwich

(Am in favour of reform for HoL, actually.)

Oh yes, do let's get rid of hereditary peers once and for all.

are we all on BBCNews24
Ive got Speakie on

BBC Parliament are covering this in the style of a royal funeral

Oh and possibly allowing Lords to resign from HoL (meaning Mandelson cd come back to the commons)

I know it's not really funny MP but can't stop hooting nevertheless.

There is supposed to be a constitutional reform bit in the QS - hereditary aspect of current hereditary peers will die with them.

Would you really want them to get rid of it MP? Not just reform it?

it's SO wrong and probably illegal

I found myself thinking "Why HAVEN'T Labour got rid of the House of Lords? Wasn't that The Plan?" but then I remember that we DO have Mandelson trilling cheerily about his ermine robes and I'm sort of glad they didn't

Pol, Thatch is in the audience, looking all healthy in an ermined robe. God, Dave's gonna roll her out in the election isn't he and we're all going to have to wear garlic round our necks.

MN Crashed: it's all the journos registering to see what the Bellends Bellweatherettes think

Seriously policywonk, it would be funny it it wasn't so tragic. My local MP got this message posted on his wall: "after yesterdays tv blunder saying the Queens speech is a waste of time???? they just lost pretty much my whole neighbourhoods support aswell as everyone i know at work"

they think it's THE CHRISTMAS SPEECH

seriously, it's a worry....

THAT was weird. THe QS crashed MN?

"Am NOT impressed with the Tory peers announcement that - hohoho they plan to scupper everything - how arrogant to happily play games by blocking the plans of a democratically elected Government!"

no precisely MP. Particularly since Cameron has been having a go at GB for politicking with this QS

They've modernised this year. Jack Straw's going to wear just black tie instead of the full panto dame.

LOL at banning the Queen's xmas broadcast.

Pledge to halve the deficit in four years (Fiscal Responsibility Bill) ? I do not agree with this at all. This is going to be a pledge enshrined in legislation and therefore if the target is missed the Government could be sued. That is crazy. Political aspirations have no place in any legal framework. Of course the Government should work to reduce the deficit but I am very much against the new trend for enshrining economic rights in legislation. There are three reasons for this: (1) it carries a great risk that the courts will interfere with political/parliamentary judgments about priority setting (Government must be responsible for economic policy, the courts lack expertise and are not elected); (2) it means one Party trying to hold future Governments to its own aims by enshrining them in legislation and (3) if the target is missed then there will be a long and expensive judicial review process - more public money into the pockets of lawyers.

Lol MP. Harsh.
I'm finding all this mutual kidnapping and pomp vairy buttock-clenching. Like when you have to watch them pretending to wassail at Hampton Court Palace.

To dismiss it as a 'political exersize' is a bit off though. It is not as if the Government coudl just say, "Oh, we are going to be voted out next year so we just not bohter. Lizzie, stay at home and have a cup of tea."

Yes, to the banks being held responsible for their actions. I agree wiht Edam that we should review our whole thinking on the banking sector. Who decided that RBS is so big that we cannot allow it to fail? What happens with other big companies who go into receivership? Do we go in an rescue them all? DH's company is having a terrible year due to the crisis caused by the banks. They are getting not one dollar of financial assistance from the US Government. Why should the banks?

Oh but I agree that most people pay NO attention to this.

My local MP (who I sort of stalk on Facebook) has been getting loads of furious complaints from people who think that Nick Clegg and Cameron want to BAN THE QUEEN'S CHRISTMAS SPEECH!!!

"Bribery Bill - make it offence to bribe foreign officials and for business to fail to prevent bribery". Nice idea, not sure how it will work in practice, but very likely to spike some of the arms traders' marketing plans.

Colditz - there's a very funny blog post by Danny Finkelstein (Times) here that pretty much makes that point:

'In Westminster there is fevered discussion of so and so?s prospects given the latest to-ings and fro-ings. Out there? Recently the Times pollster Andrew Cooper, of Populus, asked a group to name another prominent Tory apart from David Cameron. ?Ed Balls,? replied someone. ?Yes, and his brother, Ed Miliband,? said another.

A group in Nottingham were probed on Michael Howard?s Jewishness. Did it matter? When asked if they could recall any Jews in British public life there was a long silence. Then came one confident reply: ?Whoopi Goldberg.? '