What do with think will be in Labour’s budget?

If we didn't have so many people either not working, working in the black economy, etc then the "net contributor" level would be less because we wouldn't have such high benefit costs, public spending would be lower and we'd have more tax revenue.

You need to be on a hell of a good salary to be a net contributor. Especially if you have children. £6k to £8k per year per child per year. How many people are paying this in tax?

Well, quite.

@Electra10E
I don’t think anyone is saying the migrants to be returned are net contributors, they are either criminals or they have been processed and their claim of asylum rejected.
Agreements have already been reached with other countries to ensure we can return in this manner namely DRC, Namibia and Angola.
I can’t link but please read the article you are quoting from.

Shabana Mahmood is to impose Trump-style visa sanctions on Eritrea unless it takes back its criminals and illegal migrants, most of whom arrive on small boats.

The Home Secretary has stripped Eritrean VIPs and diplomats of their fast-track visa access to the UK after it reneged on an agreement to take back migrants refused asylum or convicted of crimes in the UK.

She warned on Wednesday that she would block visas for all Eritreans if the country did not rapidly agree to the return of its nationals with no right to be in the UK.

Surprised she’s turning away net contributors tbh.

Same here.

I don’t want me and my fellow tax-payers to have pay more and more for others.
It’s not fair, and it’s not sustainable.

Edit: And please spare us ‘oh I’m a taxpayer and I want them here’. It’s been done ad nauseum.

Exactly.
I don't want them processed faster, settled, or contributing. I don't want them to take a job or a home that our own citizens then can't access.

Just checking you understand the following words:

Abuse.
Fabrication.
Etc.

www.lawcentres.org.uk/news/the-bbc-investigation-the-broken-asylum-system-and-the-view-from-law-centres

Equally, they can’t be a net recipient, if they are not here.

Just checking you do understand what seeking asylum means?

It’s too chaotic as it is, very little if no vetting. There are better ways to select for entry, which does vet and have higher security barriers. Plus no waiting to work.

A humanitarian visa can give the right to work or study immediately.

They can’t contribute if they’re not here.

Or be returned.

You forgot that part.

Given their shambolic policies on farming/agriculture, I have zero faith in their ability to kick start growth. Their vindictive attack on the rural economy has led to farms selling up, leaving land fallow, investment has fallen to zero as people put money elsewhere to avoid IHT and try to rescue something for the future.

In our area, the last beef & dairy herds have been sold off. Our food supply is at serious risk.

We need rid of this govt desperately before there is a global food crisis and we struggle to feed people.

😉

It's almost as though the quicker people are processed and settled the quicker they can start contributing. Who would have thought it?

The social interest group link you put re migration includes work visas?

Indispensibility to public services offsets a fiscal deficit in the case of care workers.

Structurally Negative Categories

Certain non-EU immigration routes yield a net fiscal deficit over time:

• Health and Social Care Workers: While their labor is indispensable to public services, their lower average salaries mean they contribute less in income tax, and they are exempt from paying the IHS.

• Family and Partner Visas: The MAC 2025 Annual Report confirmed that migrants coming through the Partner route are generally fiscally negative over their lifetime because the route is not contingent on employment status or high wages.

• Asylum Seekers and Dependants: Humanitarian routes and non-working adult dependants carry immediate costs for housing, processing, and public infrastructure without generating immediate tax revenues.

@Ilovebakewelltartswell in the same way 'how do I know" they aren't kebab shop employees, how do you know they are?

You know Google is free right

The Positive Case for Immigration - Social Interest Group https://share.google/Rd6fk36oSGt2FOdWr

Again untrue. Very few people arrive without being picked up. Many/most of those you describe will have come via a legal route and stayed longer than the visa allows.

To lump all immigrants as homogenous in terms of skillset is naive and disrespectful to them, no?

And what sectors are the immigrants you mention entering? Do they have the skills the UK needs? You say they are net contributors - data please.

How do you know?
So many just disappear into the 'black economy and no-one know where they are.
The total number of unauthorized or illegal migrants living in the United Kingdom who are not officially tracked or accounted for in real-time is not known with exact precision, as the government does not maintain a live register of undocumented residents. (Migration observatory)
Independent research groups like the Migration Observatory at the University of Oxford estimate the total unauthorized resident population in the UK to be roughly in the hundreds of thousands (historically modeled around 700,000 to 900,000 via residual methods, while other inspectorate or internal estimates have ranged around 412,000 individuals identified with no legal right to remain)

How many of them are skilled? It's simply incorrect and racist to say they are kebab shop workers.